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BLM is a self-proclaimed Marxist organization among whose stated goals is "the destruction of the nuclear family." I find it surprising that you as a libertari

BLM is a self-proclaimed Marxist organization among whose stated goals is "the destruction of the nuclear family." I find it surprising that you as a libertarian would wish them well.

mindslight 6y ago
It's impossible to discuss your claim, because the only sources I could find making it were taking quotes and interpreting them in bad faith. If you have primary sources that back up what you're claiming I'd be interested. Otherwise it just seems like red team FUD. Any large organization seeking change will always have members that stretch their agenda, framing it in terms of paving over everything with their pet paradigm. But judging a group by its outliers is fallacious. I've got no worry that BLM will somehow end up in charge of everything - they will be lucky if they accomplish one fifth of what they set out to do. The energy of Black Lives Matter is based on bringing murderers to justice - something that anybody who believes in the rule of law should be concerned with. I'm unconcerned with who is statistically more likely to be killed by police. What I am concerned with is that an armed gang broke into fellow American Breonna Taylor's home and murdered her, but has yet to be prosecuted due to corruption! Every single one of these incidents is an injustice, regardless of skin color. If you can point me to a similar non-racist or non-"Marxist" (your standard) organization fighting for the rule of law to be applied to the police, I am all ears. As my previous comment alludes to, basing one's organization on racism is channeling a negative energy that will stay with the movement forever. But after seeing the reaction to BLM and the general events of 2020, apparently that overt racism exists to a greater degree than my New England sensibilities had imagined, and so they might as well acknowledge and use it.
- blacktriangle 6y ago
  https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-b...
  - mindslight 6y ago
    > We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable So, crazy window dressing on what is ultimately a pretty tame point? When you squeeze people, they get radicalized into outlandish viewpoints (see also: Trumpism). The answer is to listen to the core of their gripes, rather than rejecting them wholesale over the craziness.

BLM is a self-proclaimed Marxist organization among whose stated goals is "the destruction of the nuclear family." I find it surprising that you as a libertarian would wish them well.

mindslight 6y ago

It's impossible to discuss your claim, because the only sources I could find making it were taking quotes and interpreting them in bad faith. If you have primary sources that back up what you're claiming I'd be interested. Otherwise it just seems like red team FUD. Any large organization seeking change will always have members that stretch their agenda, framing it in terms of paving over everything with their pet paradigm. But judging a group by its outliers is fallacious. I've got no worry that BLM will somehow end up in charge of everything - they will be lucky if they accomplish one fifth of what they set out to do. The energy of Black Lives Matter is based on bringing murderers to justice - something that anybody who believes in the rule of law should be concerned with. I'm unconcerned with who is statistically more likely to be killed by police. What I am concerned with is that an armed gang broke into fellow American Breonna Taylor's home and murdered her, but has yet to be prosecuted due to corruption! Every single one of these incidents is an injustice, regardless of skin color. If you can point me to a similar non-racist or non-"Marxist" (your standard) organization fighting for the rule of law to be applied to the police, I am all ears. As my previous comment alludes to, basing one's organization on racism is channeling a negative energy that will stay with the movement forever. But after seeing the reaction to BLM and the general events of 2020, apparently that overt racism exists to a greater degree than my New England sensibilities had imagined, and so they might as well acknowledge and use it.

blacktriangle 6y ago
https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-blasting-nuclear-family-structure/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/24/blm-removes-website-language-b...
- mindslight 6y ago
  > We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable So, crazy window dressing on what is ultimately a pretty tame point? When you squeeze people, they get radicalized into outlandish viewpoints (see also: Trumpism). The answer is to listen to the core of their gripes, rather than rejecting them wholesale over the craziness.