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Using cheat software is a breach of the terms of service. The cheaters are welcome to do wtf they want with their computer, but they should not be allowed to ab

by geon 6y ago

Using cheat software is a breach of the terms of service. The cheaters are welcome to do wtf they want with their computer, but they should not be allowed to abuse a service. And it ruins the day for for millions of people who just want to enjoy the game.

Hallucinaut 6y ago
This can't be the reasoning. That is breach of contract and therefore a civil case (unless it's different in Germany?). Companies do not write laws, ergo breaching a company's terms is not criminal.
- ev1 6y ago
  At least in the US I would not be surprised if breaking authentication handshakes and taking unwanted copies of game memory space is CFAA/DMCA felony. I anal, but have previously done both cheat and anticheat as a kid.
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Hallucinaut 6y ago
Apologies, I mean China. Don't know why I said Germany but I can't edit my comment.
- alert0 6y ago
  No worries, I get them confused all the time. Very similar places.
meowface 6y ago
But the question is why the proper legal route isn't the civil system instead of getting law enforcement involved to arrest them. In the US, I think a company's only route would be a lawsuit, if the only thing going on was game cheating and ToS violation. Though I could be wrong.
- jjk166 6y ago
  IANAL but if they previously did bring a lawsuit and the cheaters continued in violation of court orders, the police could be brought in for that.
- okamiueru 6y ago
  Say it went the route you're suggesting, what should the next step be, if the people in question ignore the court's verdict? It the follows the question: how do you know it didn't already go this route?
  - meowface 6y ago
    This already is taken into consideration in the normal US legal process. If you totally ignore it, the judge issues a warrant for asset seizure and/or arrest. There's no indication in the article that anything like this happened here. But that's not surprising or interesting, because there's no real rule of law or due process in China. The government and anyone in their favor just completely annihilates anyone they deem undesirable.

by geon 6y ago

Hallucinaut 6y ago

This can't be the reasoning. That is breach of contract and therefore a civil case (unless it's different in Germany?). Companies do not write laws, ergo breaching a company's terms is not criminal.

ev1 6y ago
At least in the US I would not be surprised if breaking authentication handshakes and taking unwanted copies of game memory space is CFAA/DMCA felony. I anal, but have previously done both cheat and anticheat as a kid.
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Hallucinaut 6y ago

Apologies, I mean China. Don't know why I said Germany but I can't edit my comment.

alert0 6y ago
No worries, I get them confused all the time. Very similar places.

meowface 6y ago

But the question is why the proper legal route isn't the civil system instead of getting law enforcement involved to arrest them. In the US, I think a company's only route would be a lawsuit, if the only thing going on was game cheating and ToS violation. Though I could be wrong.

jjk166 6y ago
IANAL but if they previously did bring a lawsuit and the cheaters continued in violation of court orders, the police could be brought in for that.
okamiueru 6y ago
Say it went the route you're suggesting, what should the next step be, if the people in question ignore the court's verdict? It the follows the question: how do you know it didn't already go this route?
- meowface 6y ago
  This already is taken into consideration in the normal US legal process. If you totally ignore it, the judge issues a warrant for asset seizure and/or arrest. There's no indication in the article that anything like this happened here. But that's not surprising or interesting, because there's no real rule of law or due process in China. The government and anyone in their favor just completely annihilates anyone they deem undesirable.