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Okay, so the dark side of this is that I don't want Google and Mozilla to associate my Wi-Fi access point with a GPS location, and by corrupting GPS data within

by dheera 6y ago

Okay, so the dark side of this is that I don't want Google and Mozilla to associate my Wi-Fi access point with a GPS location, and by corrupting GPS data within my home they can think my Wi-Fi router is in the middle of the ocean.

kortilla 6y ago
The problem is that a neighbor that sees your WiFi access point will be feeding Google/whoever with the correct SSID/geo correlation. Your data will eventually be excluded out as noise and you won’t have prevented anything. Basically your neighbors become unwilling informants.
- dheera 6y ago
  Okay, so flip-flip side of this is that I would like to be excluded out as noise so that they stop tracking me, and I can keep changing my access point's mac address and SSID periodically to solve the neighbor problem. Alternatively, I could just move my fake location a few blocks down the road and it would be enough to satisfy my privacy wishes while not being too much of an outlier. Still though, I would like to at least /try/ it rather than just sitting here and doing nothing about it.
  - myself248 6y ago
    Something in https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim/network https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim/network is worth a try.
cozzyd 6y ago
Null island is the place to be! You might be able to set your bssid to all zeros or something to fight this tracking. Not sure if this would lead to your devices no longer associating though...
- dheera 6y ago
  I could keep changing the bssid every couple weeks, I suppose. Devices don't seem to care about a changed bssid.
- myself248 6y ago
  I wonder if there's an "I am Spartacus" sort of BSSID that a whole ton of people around the world could use, and it wouldn't matter as long as there aren't two of us within radio range of each other. I assume 00-DE-AD-BE-EF-00 would be worth a try..
  - boring_twenties 6y ago
    I like it, now there are two of us.
  - cozzyd 6y ago
    great idea! how about the less polite f0-0c-90-09-1e-ad
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by dheera 6y ago

kortilla 6y ago

The problem is that a neighbor that sees your WiFi access point will be feeding Google/whoever with the correct SSID/geo correlation. Your data will eventually be excluded out as noise and you won’t have prevented anything. Basically your neighbors become unwilling informants.

dheera 6y ago
Okay, so flip-flip side of this is that I would like to be excluded out as noise so that they stop tracking me, and I can keep changing my access point's mac address and SSID periodically to solve the neighbor problem. Alternatively, I could just move my fake location a few blocks down the road and it would be enough to satisfy my privacy wishes while not being too much of an outlier. Still though, I would like to at least /try/ it rather than just sitting here and doing nothing about it.
- myself248 6y ago
  Something in https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim/network https://github.com/osqzss/gps-sdr-sim/network is worth a try.

cozzyd 6y ago

Null island is the place to be! You might be able to set your bssid to all zeros or something to fight this tracking. Not sure if this would lead to your devices no longer associating though...

dheera 6y ago
I could keep changing the bssid every couple weeks, I suppose. Devices don't seem to care about a changed bssid.
myself248 6y ago
I wonder if there's an "I am Spartacus" sort of BSSID that a whole ton of people around the world could use, and it wouldn't matter as long as there aren't two of us within radio range of each other. I assume 00-DE-AD-BE-EF-00 would be worth a try..
- boring_twenties 6y ago
  I like it, now there are two of us.
- cozzyd 6y ago
  great idea! how about the less polite f0-0c-90-09-1e-ad

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