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Tbh, the article doesn't tell anything unusual. CCP rules by fear and a necessary part of such systems are labor camps. They aren't 731/nazi level evil, but the

Tbh, the article doesn't tell anything unusual. CCP rules by fear and a necessary part of such systems are labor camps. They aren't 731/nazi level evil, but they are still fairly cruel.

olliej 6y ago
They have concentration camps, that means they are at nazi level. Nazi Concentration camps were called essentially the same euphemisms by the German gov.
- WeniTheElder 6y ago
  Harvesting hair and organs for profit. I guess they can meet this level.
MichaelMoser123 6y ago
i am afraid that they are the future: a significant part of the world is moving towards a more authoritarian model of government. (for example much of eastern Europe and Turkey has authoritarian rulers, also see all these censorship rules on twitter and faceboook). Maybe COVID is just a trigger that will cause a larger shift towards this abyss. i personally have come to see cryptocurrencies as a means to escape this trend; here you have a tool that escapes that big machinery of government - never mind the electricity that is wasted along the way; i think that the altenative of a GULAG is much worse, in terms of trade-offs.
- sofixa 6y ago
  > for example much of eastern Europe and Turkey has authoritarian rulers, also see all these censorship rules on twitter and faceboook Hungary is usually considered Central Europe, and they're the only ones i can think of besides Poland and Belarus. Maybe Serbia if you're being generous? That's far from "much of Eastern Europe ( there are 10 countries in the Balkans only).
  - MichaelMoser123 6y ago
    Poland and Hungary are into this trend, so is Russia. These are the countries that host the majority of the people in the eastern part of Europe.
    - sofixa 6y ago
      No, Hungary is in Central Europe, and has barely 10 million people, less than Romania at 20, Ukraine at 44. Russia and Poland are indeed in Eastern Europe ( Russia partially), and Poland is indeed one of the biggest countries (37 million) in that part of Europe, but still has less inhabitants than the Balkans or Ukraine which certainly lack traditional autocratic governments.
      - MichaelMoser123 6y ago
        the population of Russia is about 150 millions; I still think that Russia is part of Europe - in terms of its culture. Europe would have looked very different, if it weren't for the sacrifice of the Russian people during world war II. I think that would make up for any discrepancies.

Tbh, the article doesn't tell anything unusual. CCP rules by fear and a necessary part of such systems are labor camps. They aren't 731/nazi level evil, but they are still fairly cruel.

olliej 6y ago

They have concentration camps, that means they are at nazi level. Nazi Concentration camps were called essentially the same euphemisms by the German gov.

WeniTheElder 6y ago
Harvesting hair and organs for profit. I guess they can meet this level.

MichaelMoser123 6y ago

i am afraid that they are the future: a significant part of the world is moving towards a more authoritarian model of government. (for example much of eastern Europe and Turkey has authoritarian rulers, also see all these censorship rules on twitter and faceboook). Maybe COVID is just a trigger that will cause a larger shift towards this abyss. i personally have come to see cryptocurrencies as a means to escape this trend; here you have a tool that escapes that big machinery of government - never mind the electricity that is wasted along the way; i think that the altenative of a GULAG is much worse, in terms of trade-offs.

sofixa 6y ago
> for example much of eastern Europe and Turkey has authoritarian rulers, also see all these censorship rules on twitter and faceboook Hungary is usually considered Central Europe, and they're the only ones i can think of besides Poland and Belarus. Maybe Serbia if you're being generous? That's far from "much of Eastern Europe ( there are 10 countries in the Balkans only).
- MichaelMoser123 6y ago
  Poland and Hungary are into this trend, so is Russia. These are the countries that host the majority of the people in the eastern part of Europe.
  - sofixa 6y ago
    No, Hungary is in Central Europe, and has barely 10 million people, less than Romania at 20, Ukraine at 44. Russia and Poland are indeed in Eastern Europe ( Russia partially), and Poland is indeed one of the biggest countries (37 million) in that part of Europe, but still has less inhabitants than the Balkans or Ukraine which certainly lack traditional autocratic governments.
    - MichaelMoser123 6y ago
      the population of Russia is about 150 millions; I still think that Russia is part of Europe - in terms of its culture. Europe would have looked very different, if it weren't for the sacrifice of the Russian people during world war II. I think that would make up for any discrepancies.