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The answer is war. It's really that simple. Do we want to bear that cost? Personally my answer is please God no, but that doesn't mean war isn't the only real o

The answer is war. It's really that simple. Do we want to bear that cost? Personally my answer is please God no, but that doesn't mean war isn't the only real option.

klyrs 6y ago
We got South Africa to end apartheid without war. Let's try a boycott before getting all hot with a major nuclear power, right?
- KlinkEastwood 6y ago
  Comparing the prc to south africa makes as much sense as me saying war between the usa and china is no biggie because the usa quickly won in Granada.
  - tim333 6y ago
    The CCP are quite image conscious. All people are really asking is that they treat the Uighurs in a normal manner rather than trying to overthrow the CCP.
    - KlinkEastwood 6y ago
      The CCp is not image conscious. That's honestly a totally asinine statement. That's like saying a mafia boss is image conscious because he threatens to murder anyone who speaks out about his crimes. And speak for yourself, I would like few political things more than to see the ccp overthrown and a bunch of apparatchiks hanged from the forbidden palace.
      - dang 6y ago
        We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political/nationalistic/ideological/racial/whatever-this-is battle. We ban such accounts regardless of what they're battling for or against because it destroys the curious conversation this site is supposed to be for. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        KlinkEastwood 6y ago
        okay well then go fuck yourself you censoring shithead
  - klyrs 6y ago
    Wat? If anything, China's ability to wage war (compared to SA) should make us more inclined to look for a cold/peaceful solution.
wait_a_minute 6y ago
You must be joking as this kind of war would be WW3 and the end of life. We need to sanction the shit out of the people closest to the problem and get the UN out there to investigate.
- KlinkEastwood 6y ago
  I have no doubt it would be carnage unlike the world has ever seen. But honestly the real joke is expecting the UN to be able to do anything meaningful. This is an organization that is so politically impotent they can't even stop genocides in places like Sub saharan africa, like they will be able to do anything against a premier world power that sits on the permanent security council. No one likes it but war is a serious answer, calling for UN investigations, well you might as well throw a bottle in the ocean and hope someone in a landlocked country gets your message.
- nuller 6y ago
  CCP is following the Nazi playbook. Red cross visited the "family camps" in Auschwitz, where everything was of course hunky-dory.
curt15 6y ago
When was the last time the US fought another nation with nuclear weapons?
- KlinkEastwood 6y ago
  You're right of course the fact that something has never happened is strong evidence that something will never happen
bufferoverflow 6y ago
Nuclear war ends badly for all the participants and their allies, no exception. And not great for everyone else either.
stunt 6y ago
Don't believe everything you read on the news. Occurrence of war based on fake allegations isn't rare in our history. We now have enough motivation to have a war against China and human rights isn't one of them. It's all about power and that's why there is so much focus on media about it. Why nobody talks about KSA/Saudis? We have strong proof for all the terrible things they have done and they are still our dear partner. It's all BS if you ask me. Everything is about power and interest. Travel to China and see what they are doing. China isn't an utopia, but most of the Chinese are happy about their progress. They complain about lack of freedom of speech but they also celebrate their victory in ending extreme poverty. They also have a lot of respect for western values unlike what politicians are trying to make you believe. It's pretty significant that they have order with a population of over 1.4 billion, most of whom were not educated.

The answer is war. It's really that simple. Do we want to bear that cost? Personally my answer is please God no, but that doesn't mean war isn't the only real option.

klyrs 6y ago

We got South Africa to end apartheid without war. Let's try a boycott before getting all hot with a major nuclear power, right?

KlinkEastwood 6y ago
Comparing the prc to south africa makes as much sense as me saying war between the usa and china is no biggie because the usa quickly won in Granada.
- tim333 6y ago
  The CCP are quite image conscious. All people are really asking is that they treat the Uighurs in a normal manner rather than trying to overthrow the CCP.
  - KlinkEastwood 6y ago
    The CCp is not image conscious. That's honestly a totally asinine statement. That's like saying a mafia boss is image conscious because he threatens to murder anyone who speaks out about his crimes. And speak for yourself, I would like few political things more than to see the ccp overthrown and a bunch of apparatchiks hanged from the forbidden palace.
    - dang 6y ago
      We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political/nationalistic/ideological/racial/whatever-this-is battle. We ban such accounts regardless of what they're battling for or against because it destroys the curious conversation this site is supposed to be for. Please don't create accounts to do that with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - KlinkEastwood 6y ago
        okay well then go fuck yourself you censoring shithead
- klyrs 6y ago
  Wat? If anything, China's ability to wage war (compared to SA) should make us more inclined to look for a cold/peaceful solution.

wait_a_minute 6y ago

You must be joking as this kind of war would be WW3 and the end of life. We need to sanction the shit out of the people closest to the problem and get the UN out there to investigate.

KlinkEastwood 6y ago
I have no doubt it would be carnage unlike the world has ever seen. But honestly the real joke is expecting the UN to be able to do anything meaningful. This is an organization that is so politically impotent they can't even stop genocides in places like Sub saharan africa, like they will be able to do anything against a premier world power that sits on the permanent security council. No one likes it but war is a serious answer, calling for UN investigations, well you might as well throw a bottle in the ocean and hope someone in a landlocked country gets your message.
nuller 6y ago
CCP is following the Nazi playbook. Red cross visited the "family camps" in Auschwitz, where everything was of course hunky-dory.

curt15 6y ago

When was the last time the US fought another nation with nuclear weapons?

KlinkEastwood 6y ago
You're right of course the fact that something has never happened is strong evidence that something will never happen

bufferoverflow 6y ago

Nuclear war ends badly for all the participants and their allies, no exception. And not great for everyone else either.

stunt 6y ago

Don't believe everything you read on the news. Occurrence of war based on fake allegations isn't rare in our history. We now have enough motivation to have a war against China and human rights isn't one of them. It's all about power and that's why there is so much focus on media about it. Why nobody talks about KSA/Saudis? We have strong proof for all the terrible things they have done and they are still our dear partner. It's all BS if you ask me. Everything is about power and interest. Travel to China and see what they are doing. China isn't an utopia, but most of the Chinese are happy about their progress. They complain about lack of freedom of speech but they also celebrate their victory in ending extreme poverty. They also have a lot of respect for western values unlike what politicians are trying to make you believe. It's pretty significant that they have order with a population of over 1.4 billion, most of whom were not educated.