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> Women and men are not equal. We have equal human dignity, but for example our bodies are different. What level of "equality" would you be content with? How m

> Women and men are not equal. We have equal human dignity, but for example our bodies are different. What level of "equality" would you be content with? How many women priests does the Roman Catholic church have? I'll give you a hint, it's ZERO. In fact, you will be excommunicated from the church if you ordain a woman as a priest. I think that equality there would be a good starting point. If the church can not condone women in equal positions of power, how can they possibly see the common man and woman as equals? > Yes, the purpose of marriage is procreation. What else would its purpose be, a tax break? Not in the slightest! It is a bond of commitment between two people. Even the "standard" marriage vows mention nothing about children or procreation. > The Church doesn't say "Homosexuality is a sin". The misuse of the procreative faculty (by anybody, heterosexual, homosexual, etc etc) is a sin. It's exactly as grave a sin to use contraception, or to have an extra-marital affair, as it is to engage in homosexual acts. This is where we disagree, hard. As long as two consenting adults agree, I do not care what they do with each other. So the church says that homosexuality is a not sin, but they can't have a sexual relationship with each other, they can't get married, and they are misusing their procreative faculty? That's equating homosexuality with sin but with extra steps. Serious question here -- what would you do if one of your children was gay? Would you tell them that they can't be married, can't adopt children, or that they are sinners? If so, how could you possibly be 100% for all of them? N.B. I'm just some married guy with a wife and a keyboard. I have two daughters, and I don't care or worry about their sexual preferences. I've known plenty of gay people throughout my life and feel that they deserve equal footing in the eyes of their peers, the law, and the church.

philsnow 6y ago
You've got a lot of "I do not care" and "I think" in your reply -- I'm not necessarily trying to convince you, I just saw the misinformation and wanted to move it more in a direction that the Church actually holds.
- fullstop 6y ago
  I mean, I can rewrite the whole thing without any of those words and the message would be the same. The church does not give women equal power or rights within its ranks. The church views two consenting adults who love each other as sinners simply because they can not bear children, given that they are of the same sex. Such an organization has no place in my life and, based on the gallup poll in the article, I am clearly not alone here. Have a good day, Phil.

philsnow 6y ago

You've got a lot of "I do not care" and "I think" in your reply -- I'm not necessarily trying to convince you, I just saw the misinformation and wanted to move it more in a direction that the Church actually holds.

fullstop 6y ago
I mean, I can rewrite the whole thing without any of those words and the message would be the same. The church does not give women equal power or rights within its ranks. The church views two consenting adults who love each other as sinners simply because they can not bear children, given that they are of the same sex. Such an organization has no place in my life and, based on the gallup poll in the article, I am clearly not alone here. Have a good day, Phil.