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>Where does that leave people like doctors who earnestly help their patients? Making positive contributions to society doesn't change the fact that you're bein

>Where does that leave people like doctors who earnestly help their patients? Making positive contributions to society doesn't change the fact that you're being exploited. It's become increasingly clear that Doctors (at least where I'm from) have low pay early in their careers, unsafe working conditions, and have almost no life outside of work. On top of that they have a stressful job involving interacting with members of the public.

sudosysgen 6y ago
Given the fact that nowadays doctor is mostly a rote memorization educational path, I often wonder if increasing the number of doctors but reducing hours and somewhat pay would be an overall improvement. Both me and my girlfriend were majors of our promotions and had more than enough in the way of academic achievement to become doctors, but the insane workload was a very effective deterrent.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
  Australia has tried to get some of the way there with Nurse Practitioners. I'm in Tasmania, so here's the a PDF from the Tasmanian Department of Health Services explaining what a Nurse Practitioner can do, including prescribing some medication and interpreting diagnostic test https://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/64084/NP_Frequently_Asked_Questions_-_2008-03-12.pdf https://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/6408...
  - Clewza313 6y ago
    This is partly because in Australia, regular nurses can do virtually nothing on their own initiative. A friend of mine was an ICU nurse in Canada before moving to Australia. It was a long and painful process to get qualified again, and when she did, she found out she had been demoted from being able to meaningfully improve patient care (eg the prescriptions and diagnoses you mention) to a robot carrying out orders.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
      I intentional refrained from ranting about the medical profession’s protectionism in Australia.
- libraryatnight 6y ago
  This is purely anecdotal but, please, no more influx of antibiotic and steroid dispensing doctors that don't know anything else. I'm so tired of doctors that give me the distinct impression they're the equivalent of a tier 1 desktop support rep for the human body. Or if we must have them, please keep the confined to the minute clinics at the drug store and bar them from billing themselves as real GPs.
  - blacktriangle 6y ago
    Don't blame the doctors, the entire medical establishment from pre-med undergrad to the hospital has been captured by the insurance companies with the backing of federal regulation. They've removed any doctor/patient relationship with a simple heuristic that (surprise!) always results in some pharmaceutical intervention.

sudosysgen 6y ago

Given the fact that nowadays doctor is mostly a rote memorization educational path, I often wonder if increasing the number of doctors but reducing hours and somewhat pay would be an overall improvement. Both me and my girlfriend were majors of our promotions and had more than enough in the way of academic achievement to become doctors, but the insane workload was a very effective deterrent.

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
Australia has tried to get some of the way there with Nurse Practitioners. I'm in Tasmania, so here's the a PDF from the Tasmanian Department of Health Services explaining what a Nurse Practitioner can do, including prescribing some medication and interpreting diagnostic test https://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/64084/NP_Frequently_Asked_Questions_-_2008-03-12.pdf https://www.dhhs.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/6408...
- Clewza313 6y ago
  This is partly because in Australia, regular nurses can do virtually nothing on their own initiative. A friend of mine was an ICU nurse in Canada before moving to Australia. It was a long and painful process to get qualified again, and when she did, she found out she had been demoted from being able to meaningfully improve patient care (eg the prescriptions and diagnoses you mention) to a robot carrying out orders.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
    I intentional refrained from ranting about the medical profession’s protectionism in Australia.
libraryatnight 6y ago
This is purely anecdotal but, please, no more influx of antibiotic and steroid dispensing doctors that don't know anything else. I'm so tired of doctors that give me the distinct impression they're the equivalent of a tier 1 desktop support rep for the human body. Or if we must have them, please keep the confined to the minute clinics at the drug store and bar them from billing themselves as real GPs.
- blacktriangle 6y ago
  Don't blame the doctors, the entire medical establishment from pre-med undergrad to the hospital has been captured by the insurance companies with the backing of federal regulation. They've removed any doctor/patient relationship with a simple heuristic that (surprise!) always results in some pharmaceutical intervention.