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That's not what the article says. It says that the cameras would "keep an eye on the ballot boxes in the off hours between counting" which seems... perfectly r
by jaywalk 6y ago
That's not what the article says.
It says that the cameras would "keep an eye on the ballot boxes in the off hours between counting" which seems... perfectly reasonable to me.
- uoaei 6y agoSurely they wouldn't watch the feed during counting hours! Who would go against their word so brazenly?
- StavrosK 6y agoVotes are anonymous, people can watch the count all they want.
- uoaei 6y agoIntimidation is the name of the game when it comes to union-busting, I think it is pretty obvious that this is one more attempt at that.
- bluGill 6y agoBoth ways. Unions have their share of intimidating people to vote for them.
- uoaei 6y agoWhataboutism doesn't really apply when it's a $1.5 trillion company vs a couple dozen over-extended union organizers.
- bluGill 6y agoIt does when they have the ability to undetected break into the room where the ballots are and replace ballots. The crime is easy enough to plan. I'm not sure if security is good enough to stop it or not.
- Ericson2314 6y ago> During this portion, the NLRB will read off each voter’s name and both sides will be allowed to contest ballots, likely based on factors such as whether an employee’s job title entitles them to vote or an illegible signature. Any contested ballots will be set aside. It looks like they aren't anonymous?!
- StavrosK 6y agoHopefully they mean this happens before voting? This is outrageous if not.
- anamexis 6y agoI participated in an NLRB election about 10 years ago, and I believe the name was on the ballot envelope, so the count happened in two stages. First, go through all of the envelopes, reading the names, and either side can contest ballots, which are set aside. Then, the uncontested ballots are removed from the envelopes and counted. If the vote margin is less than the number of contested ballots, that kicks off some kind of remediation process.
- Ericson2314 6y agoOh good, that sounds nice. And how did the vote go?
- anamexis 6y agoThe union lost by 2 votes. The election results were later thrown out because the company had engaged in illegal electioneering, but by the time this happened the company had fired several union organizers (also illegally) and the campaign lost steam.
- Ericson2314 6y agoaye....classic.
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- jrib 6y agoseems pretty trivial to just block the camera physically to prevent that
- josho 6y agoIt wouldn't take much for that reality to be distorted and end up leaving some people with the impression that Amazon has security cameras watching who votes. That's going to suppress the vote and potentially alter the outcome. Just look at this thread and how much confusion over what the cameras are recording.