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This basically kills BitPay who recently made all transactions (of any value) in crypto require KYC registration.

brotherofsteel 6y ago
What PayPal is offering is not even close to what BitPay is doing. On PayPal you will only be able to use cryptocurrency that you bought from PayPal, you cannot transfer cryptocurrency in or out of your account. All you can do is buy cryptocurrency from PayPal and then sell it back to them at a later time.
- throwaway10110 6y ago
  I see, wow, then this sucks
ajkdhcb2 6y ago
It killed itself. I stopped using several services because they want me to send fucking passport info to make a $10 transaction, so unsafe.
- pingec 6y ago
  Are there any alternatives to bitpay?
  - space_rock 6y ago
    * Bitcoin merchant payments * Fiat conversion options https://www.coinpayments.net/ https://www.coinpayments.net/
- jypepin 6y ago
  I never used bitpay but I don't think it's their fault to have to request passport verification. As a money transmitter they are required to answer to KYC rules, which includes passport or other docs verification to ensure you are who you are. If you are wondering why Paypal never asked for your passport, it's probably because you eventually linked Paypal to another KYC-compatible entity, such as your bank (by linking your bank, sending money with your credit card, etc). I assume in the case of bitpay you would only link your btc wallet which in itself doesn't offer KYC verifications.
  - ajkdhcb2 6y ago
    Seems untrue to me. Lots of other services continue to function with no such requirements. Bitpay only did it recently after many years of business and there was no regulatory change I also don't understand how it is logically any different from the merchant accepting btc themselves and choosing to do the conversion themselves There are many cases where businesses go beyond the legal requirements for whatever reason. Coinbase for example has explained that they make shady backdoor deals with regulators.
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- dgellow 6y ago
  It's not like they have a choice. KYC is a standard requirements when dealing with money transfers.
  - ajkdhcb2 6y ago
    Not for such small transactions
vmception 6y ago
BitPay killed themselves when their invoicing UI stopped working over Tor

What PayPal is offering is not even close to what BitPay is doing. On PayPal you will only be able to use cryptocurrency that you bought from PayPal, you cannot transfer cryptocurrency in or out of your account. All you can do is buy cryptocurrency from PayPal and then sell it back to them at a later time.

throwaway10110 6y ago
I see, wow, then this sucks

ajkdhcb2 6y ago

It killed itself. I stopped using several services because they want me to send fucking passport info to make a $10 transaction, so unsafe.

pingec 6y ago
Are there any alternatives to bitpay?
- space_rock 6y ago
  * Bitcoin merchant payments * Fiat conversion options https://www.coinpayments.net/ https://www.coinpayments.net/
jypepin 6y ago
I never used bitpay but I don't think it's their fault to have to request passport verification. As a money transmitter they are required to answer to KYC rules, which includes passport or other docs verification to ensure you are who you are. If you are wondering why Paypal never asked for your passport, it's probably because you eventually linked Paypal to another KYC-compatible entity, such as your bank (by linking your bank, sending money with your credit card, etc). I assume in the case of bitpay you would only link your btc wallet which in itself doesn't offer KYC verifications.
- ajkdhcb2 6y ago
  Seems untrue to me. Lots of other services continue to function with no such requirements. Bitpay only did it recently after many years of business and there was no regulatory change I also don't understand how it is logically any different from the merchant accepting btc themselves and choosing to do the conversion themselves There are many cases where businesses go beyond the legal requirements for whatever reason. Coinbase for example has explained that they make shady backdoor deals with regulators.
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dgellow 6y ago
It's not like they have a choice. KYC is a standard requirements when dealing with money transfers.
- ajkdhcb2 6y ago
  Not for such small transactions

vmception 6y ago

BitPay killed themselves when their invoicing UI stopped working over Tor