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Tibet was independent before it was taken over by force
by Mauricebranagh 6y ago
Tibet was independent before it was taken over by force
- tibbydudeza 6y agoIt was part of China during the Qing dynasty since 1750. They declared independence in 1913 after the fall of the Qing but it was not recognized by the Chinese Republican govt. The PRC re-annexed it in 1951.
- Mauricebranagh 6y agoBy that argument the UK could re annex parts of France and the USA. And Italy could take back large chunks of the near east.
- ChemSpider 6y agoNot only near east. By that logic Italy can rightfully claim almost all of today's Western Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire
- tibbydudeza 6y agoTheir independence lasted 39 years and was not recognized by the new central govt which had bigger issues to deal with. Calais was lost in 1558 and UK monarch stopped using the title "King Of France" in 1800 so it is a settled issue.
- jhanschoo 6y agoConversely, if not for that argument, China would be a hodgepodge of local warlords (what it was post Qing, before ROC's unification). A problem of claims by irredentism is what time period do you consider the proper extent of a nation's territory? This applies to both the rationalisation of Tibet belonging to China, and for not belonging.
- tibbydudeza 6y agoGood question. If you can't force the issue (i.e Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Cyprus, Crimea) via a force of arms or diplomacy.
- ekianjo 6y agoAnd Corsica was part of Italy (or italian states at least) for 5 centuries and only part of France relatively recently. According to your logic it should return to Italy?
- Chris2048 6y agoIf it was part of Qing, and Qing fell, why should Chinese Republican govt and/or PRC have any say in the matter?
- choonway 6y agoROC took over the assets and liabilities of the qing, just like russia did with the soviet union
- MagnumOpus 6y agoSo Tibet belongs to the ROC and the mainlanders have no rights to it... Interesting.
- choonway 6y agoPRC, ROC and Tibet can claim all the rights it wants, but buddy, you have to back it up militarily and politically.
- Chris2048 6y agoWhat liabilities did the Russian oligarchs take on?
- choonway 6y agohow about texas and mexico?