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> Unless we have government directly employ the people laying fiber in the ground, it's private contractors all around actually implementing this. NBN Co. in A

> Unless we have government directly employ the people laying fiber in the ground, it's private contractors all around actually implementing this. NBN Co. in Australia built our FTTN “National Broadband Network” by employing their own people. I’m pretty sure it’s majority government owned and run, if not wholly. Everyone complains about NBN Co. and how slow they were but honestly they did a really good job. I think the complaints were amplified by journalists, looking for angry clicks. (An amazing thing NBN Co. also did IMO was install pull-cables in every conduit, so future upgrades are significantly cheaper.)

roganartu 6y ago
I don’t complain about how slow NBN Co was. I complain about the fact that it was meant to be FTTP instead of FTTN (premises vs node), and that the only reason it didn’t end up that way is that the Liberal party said basically exactly what AT&T are here: that ADSL2 speeds are enough, and those last miles from the node to premise can be delivered over Telstra’s existing (horribly degraded and unmaintainable) copper network. So, instead of 95% of the population having gigabit fibre, we have this hodgepodge of FTTP, FTTN with the last hop over 5G, and FTTN with the last hop over copper, all of which cost the same and which you get depends on when it was installed. Don’t get me wrong, the NBN is certainly better now than the ADSL of old, but it ended up costing significantly more for the mess we have now than it would’ve if we’d successfully seen FTTP through from the start.
- Nursie 6y ago
  Is it bad? I'm moving out your way (specifically Perth) from the UK in a few months and have got really used to our gigabit connection. Last time I lived in Aus the NBN was just being kicked off, and I remember it getting downgraded by the liberals. Has it just never caught up?
  - sumedh 6y ago
    In some areas its bad but in most atleast metro areas its good. You can check what kind of Tech your address has in the NBN website.
sumedh 6y ago
> Everyone complains about NBN Co. and how slow they were but honestly they did a really good job My area was supposed to get NBN in 2014 but I got it in 2020. I dont know how you would say its good with a 6 year delay.

roganartu 6y ago

I don’t complain about how slow NBN Co was. I complain about the fact that it was meant to be FTTP instead of FTTN (premises vs node), and that the only reason it didn’t end up that way is that the Liberal party said basically exactly what AT&T are here: that ADSL2 speeds are enough, and those last miles from the node to premise can be delivered over Telstra’s existing (horribly degraded and unmaintainable) copper network. So, instead of 95% of the population having gigabit fibre, we have this hodgepodge of FTTP, FTTN with the last hop over 5G, and FTTN with the last hop over copper, all of which cost the same and which you get depends on when it was installed. Don’t get me wrong, the NBN is certainly better now than the ADSL of old, but it ended up costing significantly more for the mess we have now than it would’ve if we’d successfully seen FTTP through from the start.

Nursie 6y ago
Is it bad? I'm moving out your way (specifically Perth) from the UK in a few months and have got really used to our gigabit connection. Last time I lived in Aus the NBN was just being kicked off, and I remember it getting downgraded by the liberals. Has it just never caught up?
- sumedh 6y ago
  In some areas its bad but in most atleast metro areas its good. You can check what kind of Tech your address has in the NBN website.

sumedh 6y ago

> Everyone complains about NBN Co. and how slow they were but honestly they did a really good job My area was supposed to get NBN in 2014 but I got it in 2020. I dont know how you would say its good with a 6 year delay.