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Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

by worldmerge 6y ago

karlshea 6y ago
I keep researching the same thing and it’s not great, everything else is significantly more expensive.
biftek 6y ago
I recently upgraded my home network and went with mikrotik (an RB4011). RouterOS is incredibly deep
- izacus 6y ago
  It's also incredibly userunfriendly and lacking features for home users. I have both UniFi APs and a Mikrotik router and configuring RouterOS reminds me of trying to setup PPPoE internet on a Linux machine in 1990s. A lot of manual settings with obvious features (NAT acceleration, NAT loopback, good VPN client, easy QoS, reasonable firewall) being extremely hard to configure well in comparison to competing SOHO equipment.
  - vetinari 6y ago
    Yes, Mikrotik allows tweaking everything, but if home user is not interested in that, there's Quick Set for configuring the common scenarios. Opposite way is much harder, as we can see with Ubiquiti: they hide and remove options, that are needed. With USG devices, I could have config.gateway.json configuration for some of those hidden options (like having site-to-site VPN using hostnames instead of IP addresses... well, Unifi UI cannot do that, but strongswan doing the IPSec on Unifi has no problem doint that). With UnifiOS devices, they are not addressing the issues, they are taking away the workarounds instead. So they can advertise as much as they want, until they make devices fit for the purpose, there's no point in purchasing them. I don't see the situation improving anytime soon, they don't listen on their own community forums.
  - biftek 6y ago
    Mikrotik definitely doesn't have a flashy UI if that's what you care about, but the configuration for those things you list didn't seem all that different to ubiquiti's edge line from my research. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm also happy with my choice and had no problems setting it up
hpkuarg 6y ago
For wireless APs, check out TP-Link's Omada line.
pmlnr 6y ago
Maybe https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ is worth a shot.
- gnyman 6y ago
  Adding my thoughts from being a Turris Omnia user since the release (2016). I think it's one of the better standalone WiFi router/AP's out there. If you want a long term supported open source/openwrt one it might be the best choice out there. The original 3.11 release track has been super stable for many years, and is still being updated with security fixes. The 4.0 branch was a bit bumpy ride but since the 5.0 release early last year I've had zero issues. Note that the default WiFi chipset is not the latest generation, and although the dev team is actively looking at the possibility to get some wifi6 working [1], I think it might be a while before that is out and stable. As a bonus it has some cool features like built in support for CZ.nic's honeypot as a service [2] and lxc. [1] https://forum.turris.cz/t/wifi-6-ax-adapter/10390/63 https://forum.turris.cz/t/wifi-6-ax-adapter/10390/63 [2] https://haas.nic.cz/ https://haas.nic.cz/

Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

karlshea 6y ago

I keep researching the same thing and it’s not great, everything else is significantly more expensive.

biftek 6y ago

I recently upgraded my home network and went with mikrotik (an RB4011). RouterOS is incredibly deep

izacus 6y ago
It's also incredibly userunfriendly and lacking features for home users. I have both UniFi APs and a Mikrotik router and configuring RouterOS reminds me of trying to setup PPPoE internet on a Linux machine in 1990s. A lot of manual settings with obvious features (NAT acceleration, NAT loopback, good VPN client, easy QoS, reasonable firewall) being extremely hard to configure well in comparison to competing SOHO equipment.
- vetinari 6y ago
  Yes, Mikrotik allows tweaking everything, but if home user is not interested in that, there's Quick Set for configuring the common scenarios. Opposite way is much harder, as we can see with Ubiquiti: they hide and remove options, that are needed. With USG devices, I could have config.gateway.json configuration for some of those hidden options (like having site-to-site VPN using hostnames instead of IP addresses... well, Unifi UI cannot do that, but strongswan doing the IPSec on Unifi has no problem doint that). With UnifiOS devices, they are not addressing the issues, they are taking away the workarounds instead. So they can advertise as much as they want, until they make devices fit for the purpose, there's no point in purchasing them. I don't see the situation improving anytime soon, they don't listen on their own community forums.
- biftek 6y ago
  Mikrotik definitely doesn't have a flashy UI if that's what you care about, but the configuration for those things you list didn't seem all that different to ubiquiti's edge line from my research. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm also happy with my choice and had no problems setting it up

hpkuarg 6y ago

For wireless APs, check out TP-Link's Omada line.

pmlnr 6y ago

Maybe https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ https://www.turris.com/en/omnia/overview/ is worth a shot.

gnyman 6y ago
Adding my thoughts from being a Turris Omnia user since the release (2016). I think it's one of the better standalone WiFi router/AP's out there. If you want a long term supported open source/openwrt one it might be the best choice out there. The original 3.11 release track has been super stable for many years, and is still being updated with security fixes. The 4.0 branch was a bit bumpy ride but since the 5.0 release early last year I've had zero issues. Note that the default WiFi chipset is not the latest generation, and although the dev team is actively looking at the possibility to get some wifi6 working [1], I think it might be a while before that is out and stable. As a bonus it has some cool features like built in support for CZ.nic's honeypot as a service [2] and lxc. [1] https://forum.turris.cz/t/wifi-6-ax-adapter/10390/63 https://forum.turris.cz/t/wifi-6-ax-adapter/10390/63 [2] https://haas.nic.cz/ https://haas.nic.cz/