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Technically it's an advertisement for their own product. I have around $1,500 worth of various routers, switches, and cameras from Ubiquiti in my house and don'

Technically it's an advertisement for their own product. I have around $1,500 worth of various routers, switches, and cameras from Ubiquiti in my house and don't really mind. Agreed, the "ad" is very large and there should be a way to close it and never show again (cookie or local storage). However I think this HN title is misleading (clickbait and outrage driven) as they are not making ad revenue as one would infer.

andremedeiros 6y ago
How is pegging and selling the successor to what I have not making ad revenue? The difference is that they’re not selling pixels for money, they’re trading pixels for sales.
- noahtallen 6y ago
  The main difference in my opinion is that typical advertising is a lot more privacy invasive and malicious. Tons of cross-site tracking, ads of dubious quality, getting 3 ads per 5 minutes of YouTube, etc. I’m not frustrated when I get an email or dismissible banner ad from a company regarding a new product. It’s possibly interesting to me, and easily dismissible if not. Sure, technically, this is advertising. But the biggest problems people have with advertising (privacy invasion, seeing too many ads, or seeing low-quality ads) aren’t present in this example. It’s advertising in the exact same way that GitHub might show a banner informing me of a new plan they have. While it can be annoying, yes, I would disagree that it’s “as bad” as typical advertising practices.
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    They said it can't be dismissed.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630127 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630127
  - EveYoung 6y ago
    Even if they only advertise their own products, they will probably become interested in conversion rates and customer segmentation at some point. Or they want to advertise on other sites as well. One way to do this, would be to include trackers from ad-networks, such as Merkle M1, in the admin dashboard.

andremedeiros 6y ago

How is pegging and selling the successor to what I have not making ad revenue? The difference is that they’re not selling pixels for money, they’re trading pixels for sales.

noahtallen 6y ago
The main difference in my opinion is that typical advertising is a lot more privacy invasive and malicious. Tons of cross-site tracking, ads of dubious quality, getting 3 ads per 5 minutes of YouTube, etc. I’m not frustrated when I get an email or dismissible banner ad from a company regarding a new product. It’s possibly interesting to me, and easily dismissible if not. Sure, technically, this is advertising. But the biggest problems people have with advertising (privacy invasion, seeing too many ads, or seeing low-quality ads) aren’t present in this example. It’s advertising in the exact same way that GitHub might show a banner informing me of a new plan they have. While it can be annoying, yes, I would disagree that it’s “as bad” as typical advertising practices.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  They said it can't be dismissed.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630127 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630127
- EveYoung 6y ago
  Even if they only advertise their own products, they will probably become interested in conversion rates and customer segmentation at some point. Or they want to advertise on other sites as well. One way to do this, would be to include trackers from ad-networks, such as Merkle M1, in the admin dashboard.