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How is it misleading? Can you explain to me what the difference between "promoting an update to their own product" and an ad? This is an ad, pure and simple. T

How is it misleading? Can you explain to me what the difference between "promoting an update to their own product" and an ad? This is an ad, pure and simple. They're pushing a product they know I don't own with a clear call to action, and without a way for me to remove it or disable it.

dminvs 6y ago
But at least they're pushing their own product and didn't sell the right to do so to some third party. So far.
owl57 6y ago
Ad is a broad term, this confuses people. This shit is definitely worse than ads on the box, but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages.
- inetknght 6y ago
  > Ad is a broad term Yes. > this confuses people No. > but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages. Slippery slope. I used to think of Ubiquiti as prosumer. Now it's definitely not.
- andremedeiros 6y ago
  Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own. Then, the software that was written to manage a product that I paid for shoves a call-to-action that takes a considerable amount of the page to suggest I buy it. And I can’t dismiss or close it. The difference with ads on the web is that I paid for the privilege of being served this garbage. In my mind, this is much worse.
  - iamacyborg 6y ago
    > Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own. No. Somewhere a marketer queried a database using a simple marketing automation tool to decide which of a variety of banners to show you.
    - andremedeiros 6y ago
      No. This is hard coded into the management interface.
      - iamacyborg 6y ago
        How do you know that?
- Daho0n 6y ago
  I don't own the device but according to comments in this thread it has an ad you can't remove/dismiss and it uses Google Analytics. That is the same monstrosity as web ads.

dminvs 6y ago

But at least they're pushing their own product and didn't sell the right to do so to some third party. So far.

owl57 6y ago

Ad is a broad term, this confuses people. This shit is definitely worse than ads on the box, but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages.

inetknght 6y ago
> Ad is a broad term Yes. > this confuses people No. > but it also definitely isn't the entire monstrosity we have come to assume when hearing about ads on web pages. Slippery slope. I used to think of Ubiquiti as prosumer. Now it's definitely not.
andremedeiros 6y ago
Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own. Then, the software that was written to manage a product that I paid for shoves a call-to-action that takes a considerable amount of the page to suggest I buy it. And I can’t dismiss or close it. The difference with ads on the web is that I paid for the privilege of being served this garbage. In my mind, this is much worse.
- iamacyborg 6y ago
  > Somewhere an engineer was tasked to write software that does an inventory of my network to see what new shiny hardware of theirs I don’t yet own. No. Somewhere a marketer queried a database using a simple marketing automation tool to decide which of a variety of banners to show you.
  - andremedeiros 6y ago
    No. This is hard coded into the management interface.
    - iamacyborg 6y ago
      How do you know that?
Daho0n 6y ago
I don't own the device but according to comments in this thread it has an ad you can't remove/dismiss and it uses Google Analytics. That is the same monstrosity as web ads.