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People joked a lot about "injectible source code / machine code" but it is kind of interesting injecting yourself with something that has the source on github.
by VectorLock 6y ago
People joked a lot about "injectible source code / machine code" but it is kind of interesting injecting yourself with something that has the source on github.
- vmception 6y agoWe aren’t that different from machines, we just need to know more about the CPU and all the co-processors and how the logic gates interact But for now we can inject code to trigger protein configuration via the immune system
- _joel 6y agoDoes that mean a cytokine storm is the equivalent of a buffer overflow or a DoS?
- YarickR2 6y agoIDS with ability to launch countermeasures, and no negative feedback loop
- fabian2k 6y agoA cytokine storm is when you trick the antivirus into thinking all major system files contain a virus.
- Angostura 6y agoCytokine storm would perhaps be like the user deleting random necessary OS executables in an attempt to get rid of malware
- anyfoo 6y ago> We aren’t that different from machines, we just need to know more about the CPU and all the co-processors and how the logic gates interact Except it is unfortunately not that simple, because it assumes that distinct components such as CPU, co-processors and even logic gates exist in that context, as is totally reasonable to assume on devices created by humans. Abstracting complex machines into distinct components is a proven strategy to engineer a system, but it's not a necessity for functioning systems to exist. In the case of natural organism, they "just" need to work. They don't have a blueprint, and they don't need to be organized in a way that allows for easy understanding by looking at individual parts in separation. Consider also the difference between machine learning through neural networks ("we stuff a lot of training data in there and get what we want eventually, we hardly understand what the model does or why it fails"), and a QR code reader ("we carefully designed the format from the top down, including e.g. framing, error correction, and several invariants like rotation; if a QR code does not get recognized, we can usually tell exactly where and why it failed").
- callesgg 6y agoIt is actually sort of strange how compartmentalized the living cell is. I guess there is some type of redundancy that comes from compartmentalization that is evolutionarily beneficial.
- anyfoo 6y agoNo doubt, and separate organs with (sometimes rough, sometimes very clear) separate functions are also a thing, so evolution seems to favor compartmentalization for more complex systems. But that does not mean that there are not complex overarching interactions that make full understanding really hard. The sort of interactions you would stay away from when designing a computer, not because it would not work, but because it would make design, debugging, and iteration upon your system prohibitively hard.
- VectorLock 6y agoThere is a theory "endosymbiotic hypothesis" that mitochondria were wholesale absorbed bacteria into our DNA line. Which I think is pretty wild, and explains how neatly they're compartmentalized.
- imbnwa 6y ago“Imagine a being like nature, wasteful beyond measure, indifferent beyond measure, without mercy and justice, fertile and desolate and uncertain at the same time; imagine indifference itself as a power, how could you live according to this indifference?"
- vmception 6y agoI am not able to draw the distinction you are trying to make. The more we make machines, especially ones to interact with inputs from our world, the more easy it is to understand our bodies. Correct, because there is no blueprint then we don't know about how the brains and neurons interact. But if there is a problem with a heart valve we know exactly where and why it failed. I expect greater convergence in these fields, and as such I can't agree with you.
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- calylex 6y agoJust because you see the RNA/DNA sequence on Github doesn't mean anything, DNA sequencing has been around since at least the early 70s [0]. Many pharmaceutical drugs already employ such techniques. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_sequencing#History
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- dnautics 6y agoNote that this is a sequencing result, so it will lack a lot of nonstandard RNA tricks that these companies are or might be using, like pseudouridines, or fluorobases. I think those would have to be disclosed in the patent.
- VectorLock 6y agoLess like original source code, more like a clean room reverse engineering.
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