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>Forget ICs, now you can't even upgrade storage or RAM in your own computer Why forget? We're talking about Apple, and it's a choice Apple could make at any t

by xnyan 6y ago

>Forget ICs, now you can't even upgrade storage or RAM in your own computer Why forget? We're talking about Apple, and it's a choice Apple could make at any time. It took me a few years, but I am now pretty damn good with my hot air reflow station and can reliably work with pretty much any SMD. If someone (who of of course has given informed consent that I am not Apple and they have no responsibility for this repair) wants me to try and fix their device, what's the good reason for Apple not selling me a component? Because it makes no sense if your goal is to make as much money as possible. You'd rather sell them something new or capture as much profit as possible by selling your repairs. I'm an apple customer only because I consider them the least worst option for me at this time. Nobody is king forever, and the second there's a viable option for me, I'm out.

bilbo0s 6y ago
what's the good reason for apple not selling me a component? I have no personal insight into the content of Apple's contracts. That said, having had a bit of experience in that sort of thing previously, the "good reason" could be Apple's contracts with its suppliers. Maybe Apple gets different contracts since they are such a market maker, but for a normal startup, be prepared to not be able to sell those parts on to third parties. Full stop. Many people sometimes don't read or fully understand the fine print in those contracts. ("Many people" being me and my partners as first time hardware guys.) Not sure why suppliers do that? Maybe so that they can capture that markup revenue themselves? Or maybe they don't want you moving into that business at all even as a "parts seller"? But in dealing with component suppliers at a less larger scale, there are many things you have to agree to that would have made doing what you ask explicitly a breach of our contracts. You would think Apple has better contracts though? I would think they would have far more flexibility. Just throwing out what we had to deal with and thinking "what if Apple has the same thing going on?"
Krasnol 6y ago
> what's the good reason for Apple not selling me a component? Them wanting you to buy a new device? You've shown that you're ready to spend a lot of money already. Chances are good that you'd do it again.
- Krasnol 6y ago
  You could at least have the balls to come out and say why you downvote me...cowards.
codetrotter 6y ago
> who of of course has given informed consent that I am not Apple and they have no responsibility for this repair I think no matter the lengths you go to in explaining it there would in fact still be a lot of consumers that don’t understand what this means. And so Apple might see more customers blame them whenever a less skilled IRP changes some components without it fixing the problem.

by xnyan 6y ago

bilbo0s 6y ago

what's the good reason for apple not selling me a component? I have no personal insight into the content of Apple's contracts. That said, having had a bit of experience in that sort of thing previously, the "good reason" could be Apple's contracts with its suppliers. Maybe Apple gets different contracts since they are such a market maker, but for a normal startup, be prepared to not be able to sell those parts on to third parties. Full stop. Many people sometimes don't read or fully understand the fine print in those contracts. ("Many people" being me and my partners as first time hardware guys.) Not sure why suppliers do that? Maybe so that they can capture that markup revenue themselves? Or maybe they don't want you moving into that business at all even as a "parts seller"? But in dealing with component suppliers at a less larger scale, there are many things you have to agree to that would have made doing what you ask explicitly a breach of our contracts. You would think Apple has better contracts though? I would think they would have far more flexibility. Just throwing out what we had to deal with and thinking "what if Apple has the same thing going on?"

Krasnol 6y ago

> what's the good reason for Apple not selling me a component? Them wanting you to buy a new device? You've shown that you're ready to spend a lot of money already. Chances are good that you'd do it again.

Krasnol 6y ago
You could at least have the balls to come out and say why you downvote me...cowards.

codetrotter 6y ago

> who of of course has given informed consent that I am not Apple and they have no responsibility for this repair I think no matter the lengths you go to in explaining it there would in fact still be a lot of consumers that don’t understand what this means. And so Apple might see more customers blame them whenever a less skilled IRP changes some components without it fixing the problem.