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That's why you dual license, which is significantly more approachable. "This is AGPL/GPL unless you pay $200/month per developer seat" is a common licensing sch

by hctaw 6y ago

That's why you dual license, which is significantly more approachable. "This is AGPL/GPL unless you pay $200/month per developer seat" is a common licensing scheme for frameworks, people aren't scared by it.

frenchy 6y ago
In some places, the people who hold the purse strings are rather far removed from the actual developers, that it's a lot easier to just go with something that's "free". I think this is one of the reasons why cloud computing monoliths like AWS are so successful. It's way easier to set up a $50/month VM on AWS then to get permission to spend $5/month on a VM elsewhere.
- hctaw 6y ago
  Enterprise sales requires paying salespeople for their network of potential customers and time to reach them. The sales cycle is long and risky for companies that can't absorb the cost of the sales salary and time to get revenue. Unless you have a ridiculously good relationship with a handful of organizations or a perfect system for fitting into existing infrastructures, it's a big mistake to care about selling something to those organizations. AWS is popular because it's free for companies with a high potential for getting big (like YC companies) and they can absorb the costs of the sales cycle.
reader_mode 6y ago
> This is AGPL/GPL unless you pay $200/month per developer seat" is a common licensing scheme for frameworks, people aren't scared by it Really ? I can think of QT - but that's such a huge body of work with some very specific use cases in which it doesn't really have competition (aside from DOM based shell for UI maybe, but that has it's own problems and is often a hassle to get working). In this case Node is established, Deno is going to have an up hill battle to gain that mindshare on equal footing, adding a licensing restriction would probably kill it off the ground.
throwaway2037 6y ago
I promise: No trolling with this question. Can anyone name a few that come to mind? I only know about one (Qt: GPLv2/3 or LGPLv3), but I don't use a lot of commercial software. Interestingly, Qt looks about 233 USD per month per seat! Ref: https://www.qt.io/pricing https://www.qt.io/pricing

by hctaw 6y ago

frenchy 6y ago

In some places, the people who hold the purse strings are rather far removed from the actual developers, that it's a lot easier to just go with something that's "free". I think this is one of the reasons why cloud computing monoliths like AWS are so successful. It's way easier to set up a $50/month VM on AWS then to get permission to spend $5/month on a VM elsewhere.

hctaw 6y ago
Enterprise sales requires paying salespeople for their network of potential customers and time to reach them. The sales cycle is long and risky for companies that can't absorb the cost of the sales salary and time to get revenue. Unless you have a ridiculously good relationship with a handful of organizations or a perfect system for fitting into existing infrastructures, it's a big mistake to care about selling something to those organizations. AWS is popular because it's free for companies with a high potential for getting big (like YC companies) and they can absorb the costs of the sales cycle.

reader_mode 6y ago

> This is AGPL/GPL unless you pay $200/month per developer seat" is a common licensing scheme for frameworks, people aren't scared by it Really ? I can think of QT - but that's such a huge body of work with some very specific use cases in which it doesn't really have competition (aside from DOM based shell for UI maybe, but that has it's own problems and is often a hassle to get working). In this case Node is established, Deno is going to have an up hill battle to gain that mindshare on equal footing, adding a licensing restriction would probably kill it off the ground.

throwaway2037 6y ago

I promise: No trolling with this question. Can anyone name a few that come to mind? I only know about one (Qt: GPLv2/3 or LGPLv3), but I don't use a lot of commercial software. Interestingly, Qt looks about 233 USD per month per seat! Ref: https://www.qt.io/pricing https://www.qt.io/pricing