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Have you read college freshman essays? While it's coherent in a sentence it is very rambling over paragraphs to pages.

by SubiculumCode 6y ago

grogenaut 6y ago
yes I've read them, would those pass an English composition class in college? This comment generated by Gpt3
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  I think GPT essays could definitely pass a freshman expository writing class. I went to a pretty good university and when we did peer review I was pretty surprised at (what I considered) the low average quality of the writing.
  - bluetwo 6y ago
    Examples?
    - whimsicalism 6y ago
      Looking back, I think freshman me was perhaps a bit harsh in my assessment of my peers. Here are two excerpts, one my own writing and one from a peer. Rereading them, I am not sure GPT3 could recreate either of these, but you can judge: Peer: > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to build an even deeper anti US narrative and anti-israeli narrative. The reasons that Israel was able to act the way it did so during these conflicts were:The civil war/Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially after the July 17 downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17; President Assad’s brutal tactics in the Syrian civil war, which seemed to be paying off at the time; and advance of the Islamic State in northwest Iraq and the horrific videos of their executions. As a way to show 0 tolerance for Islamic Radicalism President Obama and his administration gave Israel full support at the start of the Gaza operation. Me: > Eleven years later, peace in Israel and Palestine seems no closer. Despite being ousted by Fatah from the West Bank, continually targeted by economic sanctions, and subject to military action, Hamas seems no closer to disappearing than when it was first founded (Milton-Edwards 212) and continues to be a major political force, particularly in the Gaza strip. What has changed, however, is that Hamas has grown desperate. In “A rare opportunity to influence Hamas,” Daniel Nisman argues that the increased isolation experienced by Hamas due to the international community's pressure is in fact counterproductive.
      - nl 6y ago
        Here's some samples using the small GPT-2 (emphasis: small GPT-2!) in AiTextGen, seeded using "The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed " (1st 3 samples, not cherry picked): > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to survive and that's not something Israel can afford. > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to take control of Gaza. In the past few days I have had a few conversations with people who have been in Gaza who are very critical of the IDF. These people are often very, very angry. They are also very angry about the way the IDF is doing what it is supposed to be doing and what it is supposed to be doing. So in my mind, the issue of Hamas being in control of Gaza is not something that should go away. It is something that needs to be addressed. Q: What have you been hearing about since the war started? A: The IDF has been saying that it is going to allow Hamas to take over Gaza. Q: What has been particularly troubling to you lately? A: I have been hearing about this as well. Q: What has been more troubling to you recently? A: My friends have been saying that they want to call it Operation Protective Edge. Q: And, you know, what do they mean by that? A: They mean that they want to use it to make sure that they have enough force to take control of Gaza. Q: And that means that they want to make sure that they have enough > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed?" The UN is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. The Security Council is considering whether to send the equipment, along with the training, to a military operation in the region. The US is also considering sending a team of US special forces to assist the Palestinian armed forces in the conflict. The United Nations is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. Kerry's comments come as the US has been in touch with the Palestinians to offer support in exchange for a full ceasefire, and as the US continues to support the PA and Hamas, the two groups have been engaged in a long-running conflict with Israel in the Gaza Strip. In January, Kerry condemned Israel's "continued offensive against Gaza," saying the blockade was the "worst violation of international law on the part of the Israeli government and the civilian population of Gaza." The US is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. According to Reuters, the US Secretary of State John Kerry said this week that "there is no guarantee" that the US will send special forces "to the Gaza Strip So yeah - not fantastic, but interestingly not terrible either. The non-factual but coherent nature of it is very troubling.
- gwern 6y ago
  Well... https://www.eduref.net/features/what-grades-can-ai-get-in-college/ https://www.eduref.net/features/what-grades-can-ai-get-in-co... https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300 https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300

Have you read college freshman essays? While it's coherent in a sentence it is very rambling over paragraphs to pages.

grogenaut 6y ago

yes I've read them, would those pass an English composition class in college? This comment generated by Gpt3

whimsicalism 6y ago
I think GPT essays could definitely pass a freshman expository writing class. I went to a pretty good university and when we did peer review I was pretty surprised at (what I considered) the low average quality of the writing.
- bluetwo 6y ago
  Examples?
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    Looking back, I think freshman me was perhaps a bit harsh in my assessment of my peers. Here are two excerpts, one my own writing and one from a peer. Rereading them, I am not sure GPT3 could recreate either of these, but you can judge: Peer: > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to build an even deeper anti US narrative and anti-israeli narrative. The reasons that Israel was able to act the way it did so during these conflicts were:The civil war/Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially after the July 17 downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17; President Assad’s brutal tactics in the Syrian civil war, which seemed to be paying off at the time; and advance of the Islamic State in northwest Iraq and the horrific videos of their executions. As a way to show 0 tolerance for Islamic Radicalism President Obama and his administration gave Israel full support at the start of the Gaza operation. Me: > Eleven years later, peace in Israel and Palestine seems no closer. Despite being ousted by Fatah from the West Bank, continually targeted by economic sanctions, and subject to military action, Hamas seems no closer to disappearing than when it was first founded (Milton-Edwards 212) and continues to be a major political force, particularly in the Gaza strip. What has changed, however, is that Hamas has grown desperate. In “A rare opportunity to influence Hamas,” Daniel Nisman argues that the increased isolation experienced by Hamas due to the international community's pressure is in fact counterproductive.
    - nl 6y ago
      Here's some samples using the small GPT-2 (emphasis: small GPT-2!) in AiTextGen, seeded using "The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed " (1st 3 samples, not cherry picked): > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to survive and that's not something Israel can afford. > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed to take control of Gaza. In the past few days I have had a few conversations with people who have been in Gaza who are very critical of the IDF. These people are often very, very angry. They are also very angry about the way the IDF is doing what it is supposed to be doing and what it is supposed to be doing. So in my mind, the issue of Hamas being in control of Gaza is not something that should go away. It is something that needs to be addressed. Q: What have you been hearing about since the war started? A: The IDF has been saying that it is going to allow Hamas to take over Gaza. Q: What has been particularly troubling to you lately? A: I have been hearing about this as well. Q: What has been more troubling to you recently? A: My friends have been saying that they want to call it Operation Protective Edge. Q: And, you know, what do they mean by that? A: They mean that they want to use it to make sure that they have enough force to take control of Gaza. Q: And that means that they want to make sure that they have enough > The Gaza Conflict Gave Hamas what they needed?" The UN is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. The Security Council is considering whether to send the equipment, along with the training, to a military operation in the region. The US is also considering sending a team of US special forces to assist the Palestinian armed forces in the conflict. The United Nations is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. Kerry's comments come as the US has been in touch with the Palestinians to offer support in exchange for a full ceasefire, and as the US continues to support the PA and Hamas, the two groups have been engaged in a long-running conflict with Israel in the Gaza Strip. In January, Kerry condemned Israel's "continued offensive against Gaza," saying the blockade was the "worst violation of international law on the part of the Israeli government and the civilian population of Gaza." The US is now considering whether to send military advisers to Gaza to assist the country's military forces. According to Reuters, the US Secretary of State John Kerry said this week that "there is no guarantee" that the US will send special forces "to the Gaza Strip So yeah - not fantastic, but interestingly not terrible either. The non-factual but coherent nature of it is very troubling.
gwern 6y ago
Well... https://www.eduref.net/features/what-grades-can-ai-get-in-college/ https://www.eduref.net/features/what-grades-can-ai-get-in-co... https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300 https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300