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>I'm not convinced that authorities were lying about masks. The actual situation was kind of complex back then, and certainly prone to oversimplification, but t

>I'm not convinced that authorities were lying about masks. The actual situation was kind of complex back then, and certainly prone to oversimplification, but that is still very different from actual deception. Lots of videos that you can watch on youtube. Fauci and WHO later admitted that they lied because they wanted to reserve masks for hospital/emergency people. It's not a question of whether or not they were lying. They admit they lied. That makes them liars and then all of their assertions after that date must be taken as probably a lie. We then had '2 weeks lockdown' to flatten the curve. Which was a lie. We are over a year now. Moreover, when Fauci and co switched tune and started saying everyone had to wear masks. They said it 'so that we can reopen.' Which was a lie. Everyone is wearing masks and lockdowns still happening. https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05 https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-not... Basically everyone was running PCR tests at 38 cycles. Fauci has come out and explained that 35 is the max. Anything over 35 is a worthless test that's a false positive. Even more important: All those 'asymptomatic' carriers. Ya those are false positives. In fact at a minimum the worldwide numbers are inflated nearly 100% or more. https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/ https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-... It's just another lie. Maybe there's another good reason to lie? Perhaps to stop spread you need false positives and not false negatives? I'm sure we all know about confidence levels. Perhaps the real reason is that they want to inflate numbers. If the numbers were 50-90% lower, could they justify lockdowns? The problem with frequent and constant lying and getting caught. You become the boy who cried wolf. What happens if a new virus starts spreading. Perhaps a far more deadly one. Are people going to believe the boy who cried wolf?

sobriquet9 6y ago
> Anything over 35 is a worthless test that's a false positive. That's not a false positive. False positive happens when there are no viral particles in the sample, but the test comes back positive. Those are very rare with rt-PCR and can usually be tracked down to cross-contamination. Cycle count has nothing to with those. If there is no SARS-CoV-2 genetic material in the sample, there's nothing for rt-PCR to amplify.
- sleepysysadmin 6y ago
  >That's not a false positive. False positive happens when there are no viral particles in the sample, but the test comes back positive. Those are very rare with rt-PCR and can usually be tracked down to cross-contamination. Cycle count has nothing to with those. You're not arguing with me. You are arguing with Fauci. https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=231 https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=231 If you could explain to me if you don't mind. Why are you saying Fauci is wrong? Was he lying again? >If there is no SARS-CoV-2 genetic material in the sample, there's nothing for rt-PCR to amplify. I made my entire post literally Fauci and not me at all. I made no comments or assertions.
  - sobriquet9 6y ago
    Here Dr. Fauci is answering a different question: whether a patient with positive rt-PCR test result is still infectious (shedding virus that is replication capable). rt-PCR test cannot distinguish between live, replication-capable SARS-CoV-2 and its remains, or inactivated copies. It detects short snippets of genetic material, not the entire virus.
    - sleepysysadmin 6y ago
      I think we have come to a complication. My understanding of his words and the situation is what I posted. Yes they are talking about shedding the virus but it doesnt change the subject. You can read much more in depth about why there was a bad cycle #. At the time of creating the rules they didn't have a real copy of the infected person. They simulated it. https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download It was a mistake on their part, but the reasoning is irrelevant here. Mistakes are going to happen during a crisis. The problem is the ongoing pattern of lying. I genuinely people like Tam and Fauci are trying to the do the right thing but it sets for extreme levels of distrust by lying. The next pandemic may be much worse because we simply lost trust in experts because they lied.
      - sobriquet9 6y ago

sobriquet9 6y ago

> Anything over 35 is a worthless test that's a false positive. That's not a false positive. False positive happens when there are no viral particles in the sample, but the test comes back positive. Those are very rare with rt-PCR and can usually be tracked down to cross-contamination. Cycle count has nothing to with those. If there is no SARS-CoV-2 genetic material in the sample, there's nothing for rt-PCR to amplify.

sleepysysadmin 6y ago
>That's not a false positive. False positive happens when there are no viral particles in the sample, but the test comes back positive. Those are very rare with rt-PCR and can usually be tracked down to cross-contamination. Cycle count has nothing to with those. You're not arguing with me. You are arguing with Fauci. https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=231 https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=231 If you could explain to me if you don't mind. Why are you saying Fauci is wrong? Was he lying again? >If there is no SARS-CoV-2 genetic material in the sample, there's nothing for rt-PCR to amplify. I made my entire post literally Fauci and not me at all. I made no comments or assertions.
- sobriquet9 6y ago
  Here Dr. Fauci is answering a different question: whether a patient with positive rt-PCR test result is still infectious (shedding virus that is replication capable). rt-PCR test cannot distinguish between live, replication-capable SARS-CoV-2 and its remains, or inactivated copies. It detects short snippets of genetic material, not the entire virus.
  - sleepysysadmin 6y ago
    I think we have come to a complication. My understanding of his words and the situation is what I posted. Yes they are talking about shedding the virus but it doesnt change the subject. You can read much more in depth about why there was a bad cycle #. At the time of creating the rules they didn't have a real copy of the infected person. They simulated it. https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download It was a mistake on their part, but the reasoning is irrelevant here. Mistakes are going to happen during a crisis. The problem is the ongoing pattern of lying. I genuinely people like Tam and Fauci are trying to the do the right thing but it sets for extreme levels of distrust by lying. The next pandemic may be much worse because we simply lost trust in experts because they lied.
    - sobriquet9 6y ago