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This entire post is a bad, unfocused rant driven by author's opinion against the tweet's author but choosing the wrong one to write about. The tweet mentioned h

This entire post is a bad, unfocused rant driven by author's opinion against the tweet's author but choosing the wrong one to write about. The tweet mentioned has no _elitism_. Recommending a product (a programming language in that case) is anything but elitism. Author makes the common claim about _using what others use_. Some products are new giving you a choice, and not every product is made by a team. More importantly indeed no client gives a shit about the language. The choice is about making YOUR work easier, enjoyable, better. Those are correlated by the way. If something makes you enjoy programming (some people DO enjoy programming for the sake of it), then this may lead to you producing a better product.

TheRealWatson 6y ago
Agreed. Even the false analogy with woodworking is ridiculous. There are definitely tons of woodworkers that are enamored with the craft and the tools, and that has nothing to do with the quality or usefulness of what they make. It's just people liking different things and the different aspects of "making something". People don't need to think alike to perform the same jobs.
megapoliss 6y ago
> Recommending a product (a programming language in that case) is anything but elitism Let me rephrase it: "It's 2021 people. Why aren't you driving Lamborghini? It's time". Still doesn't sound like "elitism"?
- ridethebike 6y ago
  No it doesn't. Only few people can afford Lamborghini. Trying out Clojure - books are cheap, tutorials are free, it's just a matter of actually doing it.
haskellandchill 6y ago
> More importantly indeed no client gives a shit about the language Amusingly clients can be the ones who care the most about a certain language being used. They see another business succeed using it and associate the success with the language choice. Cargo culting happens at all levels. > The choice is about making YOUR work easier, enjoyable, better And there is some sense to this, for example if you find work easier, enjoyable, and better using FORTRAN to build websites it doesn't make it the best solution for your client or business.

TheRealWatson 6y ago

Agreed. Even the false analogy with woodworking is ridiculous. There are definitely tons of woodworkers that are enamored with the craft and the tools, and that has nothing to do with the quality or usefulness of what they make. It's just people liking different things and the different aspects of "making something". People don't need to think alike to perform the same jobs.

megapoliss 6y ago

> Recommending a product (a programming language in that case) is anything but elitism Let me rephrase it: "It's 2021 people. Why aren't you driving Lamborghini? It's time". Still doesn't sound like "elitism"?

ridethebike 6y ago
No it doesn't. Only few people can afford Lamborghini. Trying out Clojure - books are cheap, tutorials are free, it's just a matter of actually doing it.

haskellandchill 6y ago

> More importantly indeed no client gives a shit about the language Amusingly clients can be the ones who care the most about a certain language being used. They see another business succeed using it and associate the success with the language choice. Cargo culting happens at all levels. > The choice is about making YOUR work easier, enjoyable, better And there is some sense to this, for example if you find work easier, enjoyable, and better using FORTRAN to build websites it doesn't make it the best solution for your client or business.