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They have chosen new religions and a new elite priesthood, they just have different names.

by 987yghj 6y ago

cycrutchfield 6y ago
So deep
- 987yghj 6y ago
  Much sarcasm.
rdtwo 6y ago
Wokeism is the new thing in elite west coast culture. It’s just not officially classified as a religion because it’s less organized
- gruez 6y ago
  scott alexander sort of covered that. https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godlessness-that-failed/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godles...
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joeberon 6y ago
Agreed, it's been replaced by pure materialism/physicalism
- lapetitejort 6y ago
  There's probably an appreciable percentage (I have no source for this) of people who leave organized religion because of the gaudiness of megachurches and grand gilded cathedrals. Materialism is not unique to the modern era or secularism.
lazysheepherd 6y ago
This avenue of thinking are messing with language. And language is what we organize and coordinate with as human beings. So stop this! Religion is a very precise definition. By which your comment is not only technically wrong but also practically harmful. Definition of the religion according to dictionary is: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." So no, they are not choosing new religions. And their "priests" do not claim to be shadow of the divine, and certainly do not threaten them with afterlife.
- visarga 6y ago
  > And their "priests" do not claim to be shadow of the divine, and certainly do not threaten them with afterlife. Oh yes, if you look at the peddlers of righteous outrage we have today, and their continuous infighting, there's no difference. Dare to deviate from the line? Wrongthink! Cancelled! Even their own people fall pray to this as they get accused of not being outraged enough by their comrades.
- datavirtue 6y ago
  Hmm...not the definition I found. Relativism abounds but it can't be "it depends" all the way down. We at least need to agree on definitions before we start arguing.
  - lazysheepherd 6y ago
    It is not a problem with langauges. For that we have dictionaries. It must be a problem with whatever "relativism" happens to be. I've searched and took the above defition from the Oxford dictionary before commenting. Just checked Meriam Webster and Cambridge, of course the words differ, but the meanings seemed functionally equivalent.
msla 6y ago
The sad thing is how many people think deepity nonsense like what you sarcastically posted here is worth consideration, as opposed to being not-even-wrong level laughably bad philosophy.
igetspam 6y ago
Perhaps that's for the better. I didn't "choose" the religion thrust upon me as a kid. Somewhere around the age of 10 though, the inconsistencies were too many to ignore and I "lost" my faith. I spent many years wrestling with that and the contradictions between what I was being told and what I was witnessing, even in my own family. The damage it did to me has never really been undone. There are things in this world that I recoil from because of dogma that I don't even believe. I became and actual good person, without being shackled to some deity or set of books, later in my life. I pushed everything away because of distrust and anger when I was younger. I can't begin to imagine the good I could have done, had not been stunted early on. We don't need religion and shame on any parents that push it on their kids. They don't know better and they can't consent.

They have chosen new religions and a new elite priesthood, they just have different names.

cycrutchfield 6y ago

So deep

987yghj 6y ago
Much sarcasm.

rdtwo 6y ago

Wokeism is the new thing in elite west coast culture. It’s just not officially classified as a religion because it’s less organized

gruez 6y ago
scott alexander sort of covered that. https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godlessness-that-failed/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/10/30/new-atheism-the-godles...

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joeberon 6y ago

Agreed, it's been replaced by pure materialism/physicalism

lapetitejort 6y ago
There's probably an appreciable percentage (I have no source for this) of people who leave organized religion because of the gaudiness of megachurches and grand gilded cathedrals. Materialism is not unique to the modern era or secularism.

lazysheepherd 6y ago

This avenue of thinking are messing with language. And language is what we organize and coordinate with as human beings. So stop this! Religion is a very precise definition. By which your comment is not only technically wrong but also practically harmful. Definition of the religion according to dictionary is: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." So no, they are not choosing new religions. And their "priests" do not claim to be shadow of the divine, and certainly do not threaten them with afterlife.

visarga 6y ago
> And their "priests" do not claim to be shadow of the divine, and certainly do not threaten them with afterlife. Oh yes, if you look at the peddlers of righteous outrage we have today, and their continuous infighting, there's no difference. Dare to deviate from the line? Wrongthink! Cancelled! Even their own people fall pray to this as they get accused of not being outraged enough by their comrades.
datavirtue 6y ago
Hmm...not the definition I found. Relativism abounds but it can't be "it depends" all the way down. We at least need to agree on definitions before we start arguing.
- lazysheepherd 6y ago
  It is not a problem with langauges. For that we have dictionaries. It must be a problem with whatever "relativism" happens to be. I've searched and took the above defition from the Oxford dictionary before commenting. Just checked Meriam Webster and Cambridge, of course the words differ, but the meanings seemed functionally equivalent.

msla 6y ago

The sad thing is how many people think deepity nonsense like what you sarcastically posted here is worth consideration, as opposed to being not-even-wrong level laughably bad philosophy.

igetspam 6y ago

Perhaps that's for the better. I didn't "choose" the religion thrust upon me as a kid. Somewhere around the age of 10 though, the inconsistencies were too many to ignore and I "lost" my faith. I spent many years wrestling with that and the contradictions between what I was being told and what I was witnessing, even in my own family. The damage it did to me has never really been undone. There are things in this world that I recoil from because of dogma that I don't even believe. I became and actual good person, without being shackled to some deity or set of books, later in my life. I pushed everything away because of distrust and anger when I was younger. I can't begin to imagine the good I could have done, had not been stunted early on. We don't need religion and shame on any parents that push it on their kids. They don't know better and they can't consent.