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I can’t believe there are people still browsing the web without an adblocker at the very minimum. Complain all you want about starving artists and as revenue,

I can’t believe there are people still browsing the web without an adblocker at the very minimum. Complain all you want about starving artists and as revenue, that shit is precisely why a lot of people use them. Not a dig at parent, but a general observation.

paganel 6y ago
Not the OP, but generally speaking by not having ad-blockers installed I try to to give the more honest websites that rely on advertising a semblance of a chance at financially surviving. It's also a good way to decide which websites to visit and which to not visit, if said website is too bloated I close the tab immediately (like it happened here).
- manojlds 6y ago
  Or you could read the page, see that it's worth it, ask your adblocker to unblock this site and reload the page.
  - skinnymuch 6y ago
    I have a hard time believing there’s any one or more than a literal Hand full who are so diligent as to actually do this for every site that is good enough. It’s a common talking point though as if it’s actually a practice that would could be common
    - sunsipples 6y ago
      I only visit 20-30 sites over a week that I feel obliged to unblock as I visit them weekly and they don't offer a subscription for an ad free experience. If it helps them in anyway, I'm all for it. 3 of the admins I have managed to email questions to have also declined me sending them money or buying them a beer/coffee via paypal I'd love if every small website had a tip jar, buy them a coffee every week/fortnight/month
      - skinnymuch 6y ago
        This doesn’t sound like what you were describing as a strategy before. Now you’re saying you have the same sites unblocked. In your previous comment, you advised that if the content is good, you can unblock ads then. That is what I said is a common trope, but is an inconvenience, hard to remember, and likely not done by many if any people. You don’t appear to do it either. Same with your tip jar. You say small sites which isn’t wrong. However in your case you’re only topping the same 2 dozen sites you go to. Not every site or app has the same engagement necessities. If a site can be visited much less but is very helpful, it’ll likely get much less tip money than a less helpful but regularly visited site that gets your dopamine going. I’m not saying this as fact. It’s something I believe could be true with no backing.
        sunsipples 6y ago
        I think you might have be mixed up for a poster further up stream and I am getting both response?
        skinnymuch 6y ago
        Yes. I assumed you were the poster I responded to initially saying to whitelist sites if you like them. My apologies.
- kubanczyk 6y ago
  I wonder if there is any headless-browser-as-a-plugin that could be employed to "watch" these ads. Because paying with my own attention, ummm, no, thanks. Needs to be somewhat randomized to simulate a real human, so that the supported site wasn't punished for ad pumping (which I am committing, they are not).
  - Ballas 6y ago
    Like adnauseum? https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
    - kubanczyk 6y ago
      Not exactly. Just tried it out for a day and although I dig the general model, I do not see specifically what parent could use. Adnauseam clicks everything to ruin the entire ecosystem. Instead I looked for something like: hide-and-click ads on selected valuable sites, hide-or-block ads everywhere else.
      - kubanczyk 6y ago
        Also, I uninstalled Adnauseam because I see ads. Turns out Peter Lowe's list is unsupported on purpose: https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/issues/999 https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/issues/999
skinnymuch 6y ago
HN sometimes gets annoyed at pirates of software when it involves their software. Like Mac apps. Some can’t believe people pay for Mac apps.

paganel 6y ago

Not the OP, but generally speaking by not having ad-blockers installed I try to to give the more honest websites that rely on advertising a semblance of a chance at financially surviving. It's also a good way to decide which websites to visit and which to not visit, if said website is too bloated I close the tab immediately (like it happened here).

manojlds 6y ago
Or you could read the page, see that it's worth it, ask your adblocker to unblock this site and reload the page.
- skinnymuch 6y ago
  I have a hard time believing there’s any one or more than a literal Hand full who are so diligent as to actually do this for every site that is good enough. It’s a common talking point though as if it’s actually a practice that would could be common
  - sunsipples 6y ago
    I only visit 20-30 sites over a week that I feel obliged to unblock as I visit them weekly and they don't offer a subscription for an ad free experience. If it helps them in anyway, I'm all for it. 3 of the admins I have managed to email questions to have also declined me sending them money or buying them a beer/coffee via paypal I'd love if every small website had a tip jar, buy them a coffee every week/fortnight/month
    - skinnymuch 6y ago
      This doesn’t sound like what you were describing as a strategy before. Now you’re saying you have the same sites unblocked. In your previous comment, you advised that if the content is good, you can unblock ads then. That is what I said is a common trope, but is an inconvenience, hard to remember, and likely not done by many if any people. You don’t appear to do it either. Same with your tip jar. You say small sites which isn’t wrong. However in your case you’re only topping the same 2 dozen sites you go to. Not every site or app has the same engagement necessities. If a site can be visited much less but is very helpful, it’ll likely get much less tip money than a less helpful but regularly visited site that gets your dopamine going. I’m not saying this as fact. It’s something I believe could be true with no backing.
      - sunsipples 6y ago
        I think you might have be mixed up for a poster further up stream and I am getting both response?
        skinnymuch 6y ago
        Yes. I assumed you were the poster I responded to initially saying to whitelist sites if you like them. My apologies.
kubanczyk 6y ago
I wonder if there is any headless-browser-as-a-plugin that could be employed to "watch" these ads. Because paying with my own attention, ummm, no, thanks. Needs to be somewhat randomized to simulate a real human, so that the supported site wasn't punished for ad pumping (which I am committing, they are not).
- Ballas 6y ago
  Like adnauseum? https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
  - kubanczyk 6y ago
    Not exactly. Just tried it out for a day and although I dig the general model, I do not see specifically what parent could use. Adnauseam clicks everything to ruin the entire ecosystem. Instead I looked for something like: hide-and-click ads on selected valuable sites, hide-or-block ads everywhere else.
    - kubanczyk 6y ago
      Also, I uninstalled Adnauseam because I see ads. Turns out Peter Lowe's list is unsupported on purpose: https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/issues/999 https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/issues/999

skinnymuch 6y ago

HN sometimes gets annoyed at pirates of software when it involves their software. Like Mac apps. Some can’t believe people pay for Mac apps.