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Amazon may not owe them a job, but a government ought to make sure that it's citizens are not treated like animals to just make a living, no matter where they c
by jasonjayr 6y ago
Amazon may not owe them a job, but a government ought to make sure that it's citizens are not treated like animals to just make a living, no matter where they choose to work.
It's a shame that any country allows conditions like this to exist, under the excuse of "the free market will solve this problem, just get a job elsewhere"
The balance of power between government, people + companies has made this extremely difficult, and the "free market" is just optimizing for this imbalance by allowing conditions to get this bad in the first place.
- asjldkfin 6y agoIf a politician's solution to "making sure people aren't treated like animals" is going after a single company; rather than fixing the system, then they've failed as politicians.
- edoceo 6y agoWe're all out here only able to fix one bug at a time.
- jhayward 6y agoYou fix the system by going after the miscreants and holding them to account, one by one, and accumulating a record that can be used to provide more general laws and regulations for the future. Lawmakers do that by investigating specific companies for specific reasons. You have, by my count at this time, 14 posts in this thread. What is it that you might have left to say that you were unable to put in to words in the first 13?
- Grimm1 6y agoYou make it sound like any of the conditions are pervasive, they employ 876,000 people, if the conditions were as bad as the media makes it seem I would imagine there being more outcry instead of the media having to blow up specific instances of things happening. Where there's smoke there is fire is the saying, so maybe it is that bad but that's not what I understand it to be. Edit: Also from all the documents we've seen it would appear Amazon leaks like a sieve so I would also expect way more damning evidence to have appeared by now.
- jasonjayr 6y agoWhether or not they are pervasive, they should not have occurred in the first place. What kind of culture allowed this to happen even once? Why hasn't there been a statement or commitment from Amazon on fixing this, rather than doubling down on "it doesn't happen" ? This specific Amazon incident is just one of may incidents across many major employers where workers end up suffering. Regulations should exist that prevent this from even happening, but political will doesn't seem to exist, sadly. Blowing up this incident helps refocus the attention on trying to fix this nationwide, rather than this specific incident at amazon.
- Grimm1 6y ago> This specific Amazon incident is just one of may incidents across many major employers where workers end up suffering. Regulations should exist that prevent this from even happening, but political will doesn't seem to exist, sadly. Okay if the goal is bringing attention to general workplace issues across major companies, then why is it only ever Amazon taking flak? What is special about them that they're the whipping post? Walmart is egregious, systematically so, shown time and time again over decades, but Amazon is the beacon of workforce mal-treatment? Please.
- extradesgo 6y ago> Also from all the documents we've seen it would appear Amazon leaks like a sieve so I would also expect way more damning evidence to have appeared by now. This is some the most impressive circular logic I’ve seen in my day.
- Grimm1 6y agoI don't think you know what that means.