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Then why should we have any worker protection laws. Shouldn't everyone just be greatful. There's a massive power imbalance between individuals and corporations

by tayo42 6y ago

Then why should we have any worker protection laws. Shouldn't everyone just be greatful. There's a massive power imbalance between individuals and corporations. In a way they are modern royalty, controlling a large amount of the world

asjldkfin 6y ago
But Amazon didn't break any worker protection laws, they're within bounds.
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  They're tiptoeing the line. So, yes, you're right; They haven't broken the law, but when they have to stand right on that line to get what they want, it's clear they want to go past it.
- tayo42 6y ago
  So we should change the rules? Accepting laws because that's the way it is to be blunt silly. Why do we have child labor laws? Those families and children should have just been greatful? Or maybe things can be better and the law isn't perfect
  - asjldkfin 6y ago
    Sure, change the rules. If you can get everybody to agree to it. But until then, what's legal is legal; and Amazon is within the bounds of the law.
    - danaliv 6y ago
      You’re all over this discussion trying to argue from a place of “legal = humane/ethical/moral/etc.” and I’m sorry, but this premise just doesn’t hold water.
      - asjldkfin 6y ago
        What's the alternative? Having people independently decide what humane/ethical/moral means?
- cambalache 6y ago
  Same as mine operators employing kids in 19th century England, or current Chinese companies with their fucked 9-9-6 system. Ha-Joon Chang's 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism should be mandatory reading for any person commenting online about the modern economic system.
  - edoceo 6y ago
    Here's Wiki and Goodreads to save y'all a few seconds https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Things_They_Don%27t_Tell_You_About_Capitalism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Things_They_Don%27t_Tell_... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8913542-23-things-they-don-t-tell-you-about-capitalism https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8913542-23-things-they-d...

by tayo42 6y ago

asjldkfin 6y ago

But Amazon didn't break any worker protection laws, they're within bounds.

colejohnson66 6y ago
They're tiptoeing the line. So, yes, you're right; They haven't broken the law, but when they have to stand right on that line to get what they want, it's clear they want to go past it.
tayo42 6y ago
So we should change the rules? Accepting laws because that's the way it is to be blunt silly. Why do we have child labor laws? Those families and children should have just been greatful? Or maybe things can be better and the law isn't perfect
- asjldkfin 6y ago
  Sure, change the rules. If you can get everybody to agree to it. But until then, what's legal is legal; and Amazon is within the bounds of the law.
  - danaliv 6y ago
    You’re all over this discussion trying to argue from a place of “legal = humane/ethical/moral/etc.” and I’m sorry, but this premise just doesn’t hold water.
    - asjldkfin 6y ago
      What's the alternative? Having people independently decide what humane/ethical/moral means?
cambalache 6y ago
Same as mine operators employing kids in 19th century England, or current Chinese companies with their fucked 9-9-6 system. Ha-Joon Chang's 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism should be mandatory reading for any person commenting online about the modern economic system.
- edoceo 6y ago
  Here's Wiki and Goodreads to save y'all a few seconds https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Things_They_Don%27t_Tell_You_About_Capitalism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Things_They_Don%27t_Tell_... https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8913542-23-things-they-don-t-tell-you-about-capitalism https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8913542-23-things-they-d...