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The lab accident isn't crazy. Happens in the West too, it's just something that will be politically weaponized against China if it were to admit it, although we

The lab accident isn't crazy. Happens in the West too, it's just something that will be politically weaponized against China if it were to admit it, although we just got lucky in the US and Europe before. Typical Western hypocrisy would be at play and China has no motivation whatsoever to subject itself to that. Also, SARS-1 escaped twice, in Singapore and Beijing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_laboratory_biosecurity#2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...

drran 6y ago
You forgot about another country, which was not so lucky before, and which had an incident in their 4 level biolab just before the start of epidemic.
- EMM_386 6y ago
  So that is more likely than a level 4 biolab that happened to be IN Wuhan and was being warned about by US State Department officials years before this happened? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin...
  - drran 6y ago
    Yep. I cannot calculate exact numbers, but a similar incident happened already in the past: a blast at the disinfection site created an aerosol with virus particles, which caused infection. Distance doesn't matter so much in today's world, when cities are connected by planes.
  - drran 6y ago
    See investigation here (in Russian): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Ny_TtcYc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Ny_TtcYc8 . At 3:00 I see photo of typical Covid-19 lungs and description of typical Covid-19 symptoms at November 2019.
twobitshifter 6y ago
If China did allow this virus to escape, and covered it up shouldn’t they be held liable for trillions in economic damage, as well as compensation for victims around the world?
- slightwinder 6y ago
  Why should china be held liable when it was the labs fails? Or even more specific someone in the lab? Would the USA be held liable when some lab fails? Is USA or even the company itself held liable for tech-companies fails on security or protecting privacy? I doubt there is some legal paragraph which would work here, even in International Law.
  - effie 6y ago
    Evidence points to China government trying to cover up details. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coro...
    - neuronic 6y ago
      And smartly so. Why would they not do it if everything that would happen is the kind of discussion like OP started. "Shouldn't they be held liable?" There's a lot of accidents that happened in the West, specifically the US. Some known, some not. The West just got lucky but would never admit it either.

drran 6y ago

You forgot about another country, which was not so lucky before, and which had an incident in their 4 level biolab just before the start of epidemic.

EMM_386 6y ago
So that is more likely than a level 4 biolab that happened to be IN Wuhan and was being warned about by US State Department officials years before this happened? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin...
- drran 6y ago
  Yep. I cannot calculate exact numbers, but a similar incident happened already in the past: a blast at the disinfection site created an aerosol with virus particles, which caused infection. Distance doesn't matter so much in today's world, when cities are connected by planes.
- drran 6y ago
  See investigation here (in Russian): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Ny_TtcYc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Ny_TtcYc8 . At 3:00 I see photo of typical Covid-19 lungs and description of typical Covid-19 symptoms at November 2019.

twobitshifter 6y ago

If China did allow this virus to escape, and covered it up shouldn’t they be held liable for trillions in economic damage, as well as compensation for victims around the world?

slightwinder 6y ago
Why should china be held liable when it was the labs fails? Or even more specific someone in the lab? Would the USA be held liable when some lab fails? Is USA or even the company itself held liable for tech-companies fails on security or protecting privacy? I doubt there is some legal paragraph which would work here, even in International Law.
- effie 6y ago
  Evidence points to China government trying to cover up details. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coro...
  - neuronic 6y ago
    And smartly so. Why would they not do it if everything that would happen is the kind of discussion like OP started. "Shouldn't they be held liable?" There's a lot of accidents that happened in the West, specifically the US. Some known, some not. The West just got lucky but would never admit it either.