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You mean the rise the grievance culture and its insecure leader.

georgeplusplus 6y ago
This isn’t a thing. Cancel culture and woke culture is though and it’s embraced wholeheartedly by the radical left. Even left leaning Europe thinks it was too extreme that Twitter cancelled Donnie
- klyrs 6y ago
  Y'all. The word "polarization" captures both, and explains why you each think only one is the only problem. There's a cycle of causality here.
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- jpetso 6y ago
  Left-leaning European here, I think he gathered enough demerit points that wouldn't usually fly with any review team, except he was a high-profile political leader which made it relevant regardless. Now that he's not POTUS anymore, by all means let him play by the same moderation rules as the rest of us serfs.
  - georgeplusplus 6y ago
    Your leaders say differently https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-european-leaders-question-twitter-donald-trump-ban/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/angela-...
AnimalMuppet 6y ago
No, that's not what umeshunni meant. What's more, unless you fail basic reading comprehension, you know it's not what they meant. But props for the totally transparent attempt at deflection, or whataboutism, or whatever that was... I absolutely despise that rhetorical trick of pretending that someone was talking about the opposite of what they obviously are. It's both dishonest and transparent, and does nothing to advance real conversation.
- ideamotor 6y ago
  I wasn't using a rhetorical trick, I understood what umeshunni meant, and you understood what I meant. As you said, I was transparent. I wasn't assuming umeshunni meant the opposite and clearly stated my opposing opinion. Perhaps I was too brief and left too much up for interpretation amidst others' superb reading comprehension skills. I'll go ahead and state things more clearly for you. First, look at the comment umeshunni was responding to: "I'd be willing to bet most of the worlds youth are less enthused about American culture after the last 4 years." Now, I wonder why that commenter said specifically 4 years. Now I can't say with certainty that the prior commenter was implying Trump is to blame. However, suppose you are willing to spend five minutes reviewing opinion polling about the USA from other countries' perspectives. In that case, you would know that President Trump's polling worldwide is very low and that opinions about the USA have dropped during his term. One source: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plumm.... Feel free to respond to this more sufficiently described opinion in a manner that meets the criteria of real conversation. Or, you can respond with more confused grievance outrage.

This isn’t a thing. Cancel culture and woke culture is though and it’s embraced wholeheartedly by the radical left. Even left leaning Europe thinks it was too extreme that Twitter cancelled Donnie

klyrs 6y ago
Y'all. The word "polarization" captures both, and explains why you each think only one is the only problem. There's a cycle of causality here.
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jpetso 6y ago
Left-leaning European here, I think he gathered enough demerit points that wouldn't usually fly with any review team, except he was a high-profile political leader which made it relevant regardless. Now that he's not POTUS anymore, by all means let him play by the same moderation rules as the rest of us serfs.
- georgeplusplus 6y ago
  Your leaders say differently https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-european-leaders-question-twitter-donald-trump-ban/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/angela-...

AnimalMuppet 6y ago

No, that's not what umeshunni meant. What's more, unless you fail basic reading comprehension, you know it's not what they meant. But props for the totally transparent attempt at deflection, or whataboutism, or whatever that was... I absolutely despise that rhetorical trick of pretending that someone was talking about the opposite of what they obviously are. It's both dishonest and transparent, and does nothing to advance real conversation.

ideamotor 6y ago
I wasn't using a rhetorical trick, I understood what umeshunni meant, and you understood what I meant. As you said, I was transparent. I wasn't assuming umeshunni meant the opposite and clearly stated my opposing opinion. Perhaps I was too brief and left too much up for interpretation amidst others' superb reading comprehension skills. I'll go ahead and state things more clearly for you. First, look at the comment umeshunni was responding to: "I'd be willing to bet most of the worlds youth are less enthused about American culture after the last 4 years." Now, I wonder why that commenter said specifically 4 years. Now I can't say with certainty that the prior commenter was implying Trump is to blame. However, suppose you are willing to spend five minutes reviewing opinion polling about the USA from other countries' perspectives. In that case, you would know that President Trump's polling worldwide is very low and that opinions about the USA have dropped during his term. One source: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plummets-internationally-as-most-say-country-has-handled-coronavirus-badly/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/09/15/us-image-plumm.... Feel free to respond to this more sufficiently described opinion in a manner that meets the criteria of real conversation. Or, you can respond with more confused grievance outrage.