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I can't imagine how someone would think that is a good suggestion. Are they implying white men are smarter/better so they always take the right decisions? If t

I can't imagine how someone would think that is a good suggestion. Are they implying white men are smarter/better so they always take the right decisions? If that's what they're doing, they're also implying, in this case, she, as a black woman, is not as smart as a white man. I'm a white man surrounded by mostly white people working on a field with mostly white men and I can't say what a white man would do in certain situations because we're all different and we all think differently.

paulryanrogers 6y ago
A generous interpretation would be that a white man typically mentions their accomplishments without reservation. I.e. they are comfortable speaking up in almost any circumstance. (They most often are in secure in their employment and role.)
- ALittleLight 6y ago
  I don't think that's generous at all. It's characterizing all white men. If I told a bad math student to think what an Asian person would do would you take the "generous interpretation" of "study more"? Why not just say what you mean without the racial stereotypes?
  - paulryanrogers 6y ago
    Generous as in assuming the most graceful interpretation. Not intending to bucket people.
    - ALittleLight 6y ago
      Claiming that "What would a white man do?" Is not intending to bucket people has moved beyond "interpretation" and into gaslighting. The entirety of the advice is bucketing people. "Graceful interpretation" does not mean that you ignore the advice and substitute for it what would have been good advice.
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  - dahfizz 6y ago
    > her advice to her mentee was "Think about what a white man would do" and everyone applaud such an insightful advice. > Why not just say what you mean without the racial stereotypes? Nothing is going to win cheap applause at a diversity panel than saying "white man bad".
webmaven 6y ago
> Are they implying white men are smarter/better so they always take the right decisions? If that's what they're doing, they're also implying, in this case, she, as a black woman, is not as smart as a white man. I suffer a bit from imposter syndrome, so I completely get what the GP is getting at, it was just phrased ambiguously. Here is a disambiguated version: "Imagine what a privileged, entitled, overconfident, upper-midlle-class cishet white dude would do, and do that." When you speak, people pay attention! Comic books pander to your adolescent fantasies! Your doohickey is the greatest thing since sliced bread! In fact, it's the greatest thing since unsliced bread! You're a frickin genius for dreaming it up! Your LoMoSo strategy is going to make billions for you, the few early employees that don't quit, and the VC that you choose to let invest! You're making the world a better place through scalable fault-tolerant distributed databases with asset transactions! The world is your oyster, and everyone who laughed at you in high school is going to be sorry! Bwahahaha! Er, ahem. Pardon, got just a little carried away there. Anyhoo... that advice has nothing to do with capability, talents, skills, or accomplishments, and everything to do with self-promotion and attitude. If you don't toot your own horn, who will?

paulryanrogers 6y ago

A generous interpretation would be that a white man typically mentions their accomplishments without reservation. I.e. they are comfortable speaking up in almost any circumstance. (They most often are in secure in their employment and role.)

ALittleLight 6y ago
I don't think that's generous at all. It's characterizing all white men. If I told a bad math student to think what an Asian person would do would you take the "generous interpretation" of "study more"? Why not just say what you mean without the racial stereotypes?
- paulryanrogers 6y ago
  Generous as in assuming the most graceful interpretation. Not intending to bucket people.
  - ALittleLight 6y ago
    Claiming that "What would a white man do?" Is not intending to bucket people has moved beyond "interpretation" and into gaslighting. The entirety of the advice is bucketing people. "Graceful interpretation" does not mean that you ignore the advice and substitute for it what would have been good advice.
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- dahfizz 6y ago
  > her advice to her mentee was "Think about what a white man would do" and everyone applaud such an insightful advice. > Why not just say what you mean without the racial stereotypes? Nothing is going to win cheap applause at a diversity panel than saying "white man bad".

webmaven 6y ago

> Are they implying white men are smarter/better so they always take the right decisions? If that's what they're doing, they're also implying, in this case, she, as a black woman, is not as smart as a white man. I suffer a bit from imposter syndrome, so I completely get what the GP is getting at, it was just phrased ambiguously. Here is a disambiguated version: "Imagine what a privileged, entitled, overconfident, upper-midlle-class cishet white dude would do, and do that." When you speak, people pay attention! Comic books pander to your adolescent fantasies! Your doohickey is the greatest thing since sliced bread! In fact, it's the greatest thing since unsliced bread! You're a frickin genius for dreaming it up! Your LoMoSo strategy is going to make billions for you, the few early employees that don't quit, and the VC that you choose to let invest! You're making the world a better place through scalable fault-tolerant distributed databases with asset transactions! The world is your oyster, and everyone who laughed at you in high school is going to be sorry! Bwahahaha! Er, ahem. Pardon, got just a little carried away there. Anyhoo... that advice has nothing to do with capability, talents, skills, or accomplishments, and everything to do with self-promotion and attitude. If you don't toot your own horn, who will?