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People are free to disagree and I certainly do. You can claim that the failing of the Culture are scenaristic conceits needed to have a plot for a book, that's
by pierrebai 6y ago
People are free to disagree and I certainly do.
You can claim that the failing of the Culture are scenaristic conceits needed to have a plot for a book, that's an easy cop-out. The Culture is what the books shows. That its flaws were only made up to have a story doesn't change that.
In my opinion, when people claim the Culture is a prefect utopia, they base their view on a non-existent Culture, that of everything good seen in the book with the unsavory part s excised as book-writing-fodder unnatural warts. Bu that's different thing, a made-up, cleaned-up version of the Culture.
To me, the Minds clearly are toying with humans for a subtle version of cruelty.
I'll just take the "Player of Games" as the most explicit example (although "Surface Details" is pretty telling too): the Culture has been monitoring the Azad for decades, fully knowing how corrupt and evil they are, horribly torturing people 24/7. Yet they take decades before even setting up a contact. Ironically (if we can call it that) the novel ends with the events the Minds claim as their reason for not intervening directly.
I find the Minds behaviour described through Special Circumstances to be consistently amoral.
- zabzonk 6y agoSurely, what TPOG and other novels in the sequence are trying to say is that the Minds find manipulating humans, and other intelligent entities, somewhat abhorrent (see the Ship Gray Matter, for example), and only step in to do it when they can see no other choices. Hence Special Circumstances (as opposed to Contact).
- zabzonk 6y ago> Gray Matter Should of course be Gray Area.
- rsynnott 6y ago> the Culture has been monitoring the Azad for decades, fully knowing how corrupt and evil they are, horribly torturing people 24/7. Yet they take decades before even setting up a contact. Look to Windward explains why; previous rushed interventionism went very, very badly.