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Sure. Here you go - https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g... The Vaccine Al

by sprafa 6y ago

Sure. Here you go - https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g... The Vaccine Alliance did a contract with AstraZeneca before the UK. The Alliance was Germany, Italy, Netherlands and France. AstraZeneca says this "doesn't count". I believe this was around 1 month before the UK agreement was signed. Here's another article that goes over it https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-s https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-coronavirus-vaccine-s... And here's the press release up on Reuters https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g https://www.france24.com/en/20200613-covid-19-france-italy-g... https://uk.ambafrance.org/Inclusive-Vaccines-Alliance-reache https://uk.ambafrance.org/Inclusive-Vaccines-Alliance-reache... And in the French embassy.. You're being fed BS. AZ signed with the Alliance, that contract was turned over to the EU comission. AZ is most likely caught up in giving their vaccine to the UK first and they are lying constantly. See the controversy on their efficacy in the US.

thu2111 6y ago
Hmm. I did a quick scan read over the Politico article, but I'm confused. It doesn't seem to be about contracts and the words "contract" and "alliance" don't appear in it. Did you copy/paste the wrong link? I also tried the two France24 links. They're both 404 Not Founds. The final link is also a 404. That's a bit odd. Where are you getting these links from? At any rate, the result is you've not provided any evidence that AZ is lying, which is a very bold claim to begin with. Why would they do that? AZ is part Swedish and has a Greek CEO, it's not like they're a 100% pure British firm of tub-thumping Brexit supporting patriots who inexplicably don't want to supply Europe with vaccine. Although by now I wouldn't be surprised if they're thoroughly sick of the EU and its games. Meanwhile the EU has: a) The motive to lie. b) A track record of doing so repeatedly, a completely undeniable one. It's ridiculous how often the EU or leaders of members states have said totally untrue things about this vaccine or the UK, I made a list at some point (see my old comments) and within a week there'd been another two lies coming out of Europe. I'm not the one being fed BS here - in many of those cases Europe's leaders have already admitted they'd said untrue things!
- sprafa 6y ago
  its definitly weird those links 404ed. They were there before. If you assume the EU has a motive to lie and the UK and AZ does not, you are immediately demonstrating bias.

by sprafa 6y ago

thu2111 6y ago

Hmm. I did a quick scan read over the Politico article, but I'm confused. It doesn't seem to be about contracts and the words "contract" and "alliance" don't appear in it. Did you copy/paste the wrong link? I also tried the two France24 links. They're both 404 Not Founds. The final link is also a 404. That's a bit odd. Where are you getting these links from? At any rate, the result is you've not provided any evidence that AZ is lying, which is a very bold claim to begin with. Why would they do that? AZ is part Swedish and has a Greek CEO, it's not like they're a 100% pure British firm of tub-thumping Brexit supporting patriots who inexplicably don't want to supply Europe with vaccine. Although by now I wouldn't be surprised if they're thoroughly sick of the EU and its games. Meanwhile the EU has: a) The motive to lie. b) A track record of doing so repeatedly, a completely undeniable one. It's ridiculous how often the EU or leaders of members states have said totally untrue things about this vaccine or the UK, I made a list at some point (see my old comments) and within a week there'd been another two lies coming out of Europe. I'm not the one being fed BS here - in many of those cases Europe's leaders have already admitted they'd said untrue things!

sprafa 6y ago
its definitly weird those links 404ed. They were there before. If you assume the EU has a motive to lie and the UK and AZ does not, you are immediately demonstrating bias.