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This rule only applies when the majority don't care about the outcome, though. Halal meat: small minority cares deeply, majority doesn't care or even notice; th

This rule only applies when the majority don't care about the outcome, though. Halal meat: small minority cares deeply, majority doesn't care or even notice; therefore it's easiest for all meat to be halal. If the minority preference actually impinged on something the majority wanted, like "no meat at all", then the minority would certainly not have this influence (and there might be conflict). Notice that vegans, a small and passionate minority, have not imposed their preference on society at large. If it's a "dictatorship", it's a very, very soft one.

logifail 6y ago
> This rule only applies when the majority don't care about the outcome "Don't care" or "aren't told" ? > Halal meat: small minority cares deeply, majority doesn't care or even notice I suspect this - as in so many cases - comes down to a labelling issue. Are consumers able to make an informed judgement if they're unable to see what product they're buying? "Leading [UK] supermarkets [said] some of the meat they sell could qualify as halal but is not labelled as such"[0] [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27402428 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27402428
- pessimizer 6y ago
  "Don't care." If there is a large constituency that refuses to eat halal meat, it's just out of hostility towards the minority, not because of any quality of the meat. Your quote is evidence for this.
  - u801e 6y ago
    Not really. What if people thought the method used for slaughtering was inhumane and they preferred a different method. Then the motivation is not based on hostility towards a minority.
- anaerobicover 6y ago
  This is exactly the point. If no-one even notices without being explicitly told, then it's a completely innocuous distinction from the point of view of the non-halal majority.
  - logifail 6y ago
    > If no-one even notices without being explicitly told Two thought experiments: Would one notice if meat was or wasn't halal if one wasn't explicitly told? Would one notice if fruit juice was or wasn't kosher if one wasn't explicitly told?

logifail 6y ago

> This rule only applies when the majority don't care about the outcome "Don't care" or "aren't told" ? > Halal meat: small minority cares deeply, majority doesn't care or even notice I suspect this - as in so many cases - comes down to a labelling issue. Are consumers able to make an informed judgement if they're unable to see what product they're buying? "Leading [UK] supermarkets [said] some of the meat they sell could qualify as halal but is not labelled as such"[0] [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27402428 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27402428

pessimizer 6y ago
"Don't care." If there is a large constituency that refuses to eat halal meat, it's just out of hostility towards the minority, not because of any quality of the meat. Your quote is evidence for this.
- u801e 6y ago
  Not really. What if people thought the method used for slaughtering was inhumane and they preferred a different method. Then the motivation is not based on hostility towards a minority.
anaerobicover 6y ago
This is exactly the point. If no-one even notices without being explicitly told, then it's a completely innocuous distinction from the point of view of the non-halal majority.
- logifail 6y ago
  > If no-one even notices without being explicitly told Two thought experiments: Would one notice if meat was or wasn't halal if one wasn't explicitly told? Would one notice if fruit juice was or wasn't kosher if one wasn't explicitly told?