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My brother recently had his first kid... I think it was 4-6 years of 'trying'. His wife got pregnant the month after she had her IUD pulled, but miscarried in t
by tcj_phx 6y ago
My brother recently had his first kid... I think it was 4-6 years of 'trying'. His wife got pregnant the month after she had her IUD pulled, but miscarried in the first trimester. I think she had at least two or three more miscarriages, they didn't share the details with me.
Then they went for 'assisted reproduction' (in-vitro fertilization [IVF]). The first implantation lasted for a couple months, then she miscarried. The later embryos didn't take (I think they tried 2 more IVF cycles, from the frozen embryos). Eventually they gave up and started getting ready for adoption.
I went over to their house last Mothers day. They put ultrasound pictures in the box to surprise my mom. A older female friend of mine says she's seen this happen all the time: give up on 'trying', and the pregnancy will appear.
My brother and sister-in-law don't really talk to me about medical things, and I don't tell them where they're off. But I think her IUD was the "chemical castration" variety (plastic with the levonorgestrel, brand name Mirena). I never told them, "you shouldn't have trusted the pharmaceutical-industrial complex to not take your fertility away prematurely", as it was too late for that.
Progestins are sold to women as hormones that regulate their menstrual cycles, but really they're imitation hormones that suppress the menstrual cycle. Most modern women don't want a dozen pregnancies, most modern men don't want a herd of children to take care of, so FDA-approved fake hormones are an easy sell. But if we're actually concerned about the trend line from hyper-fertile to sub-fertile, being honest with women about what's in their "birth control" prescriptions is a good start.
[I hereby take credit for the anonymous edit that fixed the introduction of the Wikipedia entry for Progestogen. The fix has persisted across the years. Many others have come along to reword the introduction. Someone inserted a clarification to my edit to say that fake-hormones are used in Medicine, but my word insertion and reference are still there :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progestogen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progestogen ]
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- cableshaft 6y ago> A older female friend of mine says she's seen this happen all the time: give up on 'trying', and the pregnancy will appear. People say this about lots of things (stop looking for a perfect job, and it will appear, stop trying so hard to find the perfect mate, and they'll appear, etc), but that doesn't make it a valid strategy, even if it does happen sometimes. Stop trying is why the Coronavirus pandemic got so bad in the US, and why a climate catastrophe is all but certain in the next couple of decades. Why so many people in the US get so fat and unhealthy (speaking as a fat and unhealthy American myself). For every person who stopped trying and had what they wanted happen to them anyway, there's plenty of people where that hasn't been true.
- tcj_phx 6y agoI agree that taking action is very important for fixing problems. Managing emotional stress is an important part of maintaining a pregnancy. My sister-in-law was also doing other therapeutic interventions. I think the final piece of her puzzle was letting go of needing to perform. I think doing nothing special would have been more appropriate for the coronavirus: aggressive ventilation killed a lot of patients in New York. Fever hospitals [0] would have saved a lot of lives. Problems are easier to solve when they are correctly understood. [0] https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Lets-bring-back-Britains-fever-hospitals https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/Lets-bring-back-Britains...
- tweetle_beetle 6y agoA perfect job, a perfect mate and a perfect climate all depend massively on external factors. Fertility requires the same two people trying more or less the same thing repeatedly, and, in that relatively closed system, stress can have a very significant impact.
- WarOnPrivacy 6y agoThat many miscarriages brings so much sorrow that I don't know how to empathize.
- alexandr1us 6y agoYou post made my day! Wish you all the best!