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I had the opportunity and blessing to meet Dr. Stallman in person on several occasions while volunteering at FSF. I think we've met a total of about 10 times,

I had the opportunity and blessing to meet Dr. Stallman in person on several occasions while volunteering at FSF. I think we've met a total of about 10 times, and spent a total of about 10-20 hours within each other's presence. During this time, I have never, not even once, observed rms doing anything questionable, except perhaps going barefoot in the office, which I was inspired by and followed suit. (I washed my feet so that they wouldn't smell.) In fact, on one occasion, Dr. Stallman told me that a joke I had told was mean and not funny, which was probably true, but such is Russian humor. In my internal mental models, it affects the reputation of those working much more against rms more than rms himself. Combined with several questionable choices in the past, e.g. deprecating human-readable onion addresses, I personally no longer consider Tor Project to be a credible organization.

forgotmypw17 6y ago
In case anyone wants to know the joke, here it is, told in today's language. A guy who had never had sex before decided to finally go for it, and went at it with a sex worker. As it goes sometimes, he fell in love with her, and asked for her hand in marriage. She said, I don't think it is going to work, because you are so sexually inexperienced. But the guy pleaded with her, and wouldn't leave her alone, so to get him off her back, she told him, "Go to the woods at the side of the village, there's a tree with a hole in it. Make love to that hole for a year, then I'll marry you." So a year later, the guy returns to ask her again. She says, Alright, let's see what you've got, and if you can satisfy me, I'll marry you. And having said this, she takes off her clothes, and turns her back to him, gets on her knees and sticks her butt out at him. And at this, the guy lifts his leg, and front-kicks her butt so hard, she flies forward and drops to the floor. "What the fuck are you doing, man?!" she yells at him? And he replies, "just making sure there's no bees inside."
selfishgene 6y ago
https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-scientist-stallman-pedophilia https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-scientist-stallman-pedophi... He's never adequately explained from what I can tell why he made those statements in the first place. If he could provide that additional insight, I think it would help others evaluate the sincerity of his apology. The question today that I have for Mr. Stallman, whom many of us hold in the highest regard for his role in the free software movement, is a very frank one: Were his remarks in support of pedophilia designed to persuade Mr. Epstein to donate part of his $500 million estate to the Free Software Foundation, much like he observed role-models such as MIT president Rafael Reif do for Mr. Epstein when Dr. Reif sent Mr. Epstein a personally signed thank-you note for his donation to the Media Lab, or colleagues like Martin Nowak do for Mr. Epstein when Dr. Nowak created a web page on a university website and an office in his department for a convicted child-rapist in exchange for tens of millions of dollars in donations that were promised to his academic program at Harvard and hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, often laundered through Epstein's fellow billionaire pedophile friends like Les Wexner and Glenn Dubin, to Harvard University, where Mr. Nowak is employed as a math professor?
- Udik 6y ago
  From your link: > Stallman’s nasty comments last week drew attention to some even more appalling stuff he said back in the mid-2000s. In one 2003 post, the famed coder even wrote that “everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately.” Funny that this "even more appalling stuff" is the law in such backward places like Austria, Germany and Italy. Just slightly less uncivilised countries such as Denmark, France, Sweden, set the age of consent to 15. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
  - MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago
    I personally don't feel he meant 14 year old girls should have sex with older men. I think he meant teenagers should experiment with each other.
  - selfishgene 6y ago
    To the extent that Stallman used his position at MIT and the FSF to help Jeffrey Epstein evade prosecution under the federal RICO statute for several decades by colluding with Epstein co-conspirators MIT president Rafael Reif, MIT corporation chairman Robert Millard and corporate vice presidents Morgan, Newton, Ruiz and Lucas, as well as colleagues Seth Lloyd and Marvin Minsky, in hopes of receiving the kind of money that they witnessed Epstein donate to Harvard as quid pro quo for Harvard law professor and Epstein best buddy Alan "Dershbag" Dershowitz negotiating the infamous 2011 "sweetheart deal" with federal prosecutors, that was also facilitated by Benedict "Dick" Gross, Martin Nowak, Stephen Kosslyn, Steven "Use-of-the-Internet-to-Entice-a-Minor-into-Prostitution-is-A-Okay" Stinker of a Pinker, and former Harvard president Larry "Women Can't Do Science" Summers, then that's a huge obstacle to allowing Mr. Stallman to continue to serve on the board of the FSF. As far as the examplars you quote above, namely Austria, Germany and Italy, along with some of their collaborators during WWII, I wonder if even Epstein, Maxwell, Reif, Summers, Pinker, Kosslyn, Minsky, Oxman, Dubin, Wexner, Black, Zuckerman, and last but not least, Alan "Dershbag" Dershowitz, would approve of citing these countries as modern role models for the protection of basic human rights.

forgotmypw17 6y ago

In case anyone wants to know the joke, here it is, told in today's language. A guy who had never had sex before decided to finally go for it, and went at it with a sex worker. As it goes sometimes, he fell in love with her, and asked for her hand in marriage. She said, I don't think it is going to work, because you are so sexually inexperienced. But the guy pleaded with her, and wouldn't leave her alone, so to get him off her back, she told him, "Go to the woods at the side of the village, there's a tree with a hole in it. Make love to that hole for a year, then I'll marry you." So a year later, the guy returns to ask her again. She says, Alright, let's see what you've got, and if you can satisfy me, I'll marry you. And having said this, she takes off her clothes, and turns her back to him, gets on her knees and sticks her butt out at him. And at this, the guy lifts his leg, and front-kicks her butt so hard, she flies forward and drops to the floor. "What the fuck are you doing, man?!" she yells at him? And he replies, "just making sure there's no bees inside."

selfishgene 6y ago

https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-scientist-stallman-pedophilia https://futurism.com/the-byte/mit-scientist-stallman-pedophi... He's never adequately explained from what I can tell why he made those statements in the first place. If he could provide that additional insight, I think it would help others evaluate the sincerity of his apology. The question today that I have for Mr. Stallman, whom many of us hold in the highest regard for his role in the free software movement, is a very frank one: Were his remarks in support of pedophilia designed to persuade Mr. Epstein to donate part of his $500 million estate to the Free Software Foundation, much like he observed role-models such as MIT president Rafael Reif do for Mr. Epstein when Dr. Reif sent Mr. Epstein a personally signed thank-you note for his donation to the Media Lab, or colleagues like Martin Nowak do for Mr. Epstein when Dr. Nowak created a web page on a university website and an office in his department for a convicted child-rapist in exchange for tens of millions of dollars in donations that were promised to his academic program at Harvard and hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, often laundered through Epstein's fellow billionaire pedophile friends like Les Wexner and Glenn Dubin, to Harvard University, where Mr. Nowak is employed as a math professor?

Udik 6y ago
From your link: > Stallman’s nasty comments last week drew attention to some even more appalling stuff he said back in the mid-2000s. In one 2003 post, the famed coder even wrote that “everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately.” Funny that this "even more appalling stuff" is the law in such backward places like Austria, Germany and Italy. Just slightly less uncivilised countries such as Denmark, France, Sweden, set the age of consent to 15. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y ago
  I personally don't feel he meant 14 year old girls should have sex with older men. I think he meant teenagers should experiment with each other.
- selfishgene 6y ago
  To the extent that Stallman used his position at MIT and the FSF to help Jeffrey Epstein evade prosecution under the federal RICO statute for several decades by colluding with Epstein co-conspirators MIT president Rafael Reif, MIT corporation chairman Robert Millard and corporate vice presidents Morgan, Newton, Ruiz and Lucas, as well as colleagues Seth Lloyd and Marvin Minsky, in hopes of receiving the kind of money that they witnessed Epstein donate to Harvard as quid pro quo for Harvard law professor and Epstein best buddy Alan "Dershbag" Dershowitz negotiating the infamous 2011 "sweetheart deal" with federal prosecutors, that was also facilitated by Benedict "Dick" Gross, Martin Nowak, Stephen Kosslyn, Steven "Use-of-the-Internet-to-Entice-a-Minor-into-Prostitution-is-A-Okay" Stinker of a Pinker, and former Harvard president Larry "Women Can't Do Science" Summers, then that's a huge obstacle to allowing Mr. Stallman to continue to serve on the board of the FSF. As far as the examplars you quote above, namely Austria, Germany and Italy, along with some of their collaborators during WWII, I wonder if even Epstein, Maxwell, Reif, Summers, Pinker, Kosslyn, Minsky, Oxman, Dubin, Wexner, Black, Zuckerman, and last but not least, Alan "Dershbag" Dershowitz, would approve of citing these countries as modern role models for the protection of basic human rights.