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Seems like religiosity is a neurological need, but church is not. With organized religion decreasing in various countries, I wonder where people will get their
by loukrazy 6y ago
Seems like religiosity is a neurological need, but church is not. With organized religion decreasing in various countries, I wonder where people will get their outlets for social and metaphysical needs previously supplied by churches.
- dr_dshiv 6y agoPsychedelics and esoteric philosophy, of course. And netflix. Mostly Netflix.
- gameswithgo 6y agoSome have postulated that the rise of conspiratorial thinking is exactly this. So people are leaving the church, and moving to QAnon, and cults of personality. Perhaps organized religion was serving to keep people's need to be part of something more productively contained. However I can tell you it isn't universally a neurological need. There are those of us who get by just fine without any religiosity, or church. I don't know if that is because we are different or if anyone can do it.
- andyxor 6y agoUnlike the fringe conspiracies of the right, the conspiracies of the left, like the ‘white supremacy’ boogeyman and ‘critical race theory’, are much more prevalent, broadcasted from mainstream news and promoted in schools and workplaces. The dogmatic, intolerant way of thinking and active suppression of differing opinions which comes with this pseudo-liberal wave is the real danger in my view, and is probably the closest to religious fanaticism. I’m not sure what happened with liberalism but it became its caricature somewhere along the way. And it happened quite recently.
- goliatone 6y agoIm curious to learn more about these conspiracies of the left. Do you have books to share or other resources?
- gameswithgo 6y agodo you think that american conservatism also became a caricature in the trump age?
- seneca 6y agoIm not the person you're responding to, but I agree with their post. In my opinion, mainstream American Conservativism fell from grace long before Trump. Coincidentally for the topic at hand, I believe it was when they made a pact with the evangelical Christian community that they lost their way. An ideology can not support both small government and personal freedom and fight for banning abortions and gay marriage. They are, on their face, opposite beliefs, but the Republican party needed to bolster their base, and taking on the religious community was a marriage of necessity. Unfortunately any coherent message of actual Conservativism has been lost in that attempt.
- throwaway8581 6y agoLibertarianism was never "actual Conservatism." Real conservatives have been bemoaning the dominance of libertarians within the Republican Party for decades now. Actual conservatism means hierarchy and authority, crushing criminals, and enforcing public morality.
- weakfish 6y agoAre you really implying that white supremacy, the very thing that in my parents lifetime was the law of the land, has been reduced to a boogeyman? That is unfortunate. I'd love to engage with you more, and provide some reading or sources that can maybe away your view.
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- nameequalsmain 6y agoHow did you arrive at that conclusion? With the decline of organized religion, could one not suggest that religiosity is very much something people can be without? Or are you referring to already religious people being unsatisfied religiously? I'm in a very secular country. Non-religious people are... non-religious. I don't believe there is anything that "replaces" religion in most people's lives. If you're not religious, you don't necessarily have metaphysical needs, and I think most people here don't. Regarding religious people: they meet with eachother in church and other constellations as usual. Nothing is keeping people from practicing their religion, but they can't assume most people will empathize with their views, which is true for many different standpoints in life, not just religion. (I did not read the article as I was paywalled, I might have missed the context of your comment)
- throwaway8581 6y agoWokeism, BLM protests, diversity training, drag queen story hour, posting in solidarity on Instagram, struggle sessions.
- HKH2 6y agoNightly news sermons.
- da_big_ghey 6y agotbh tucker carlson n rachel maddow remind me a lot of preachers. unfortunately, remind me of the bad "hellfire and brimstone" kind not of nicer "goodness and forgiveness" kind.
- DaniloDias 6y agoAnd next up on [ Rachel | Tucker ]... Let’s all have a nice huddle where we talk about how the other guys are idiots and the pogroms they’re planning against us. Must see tv.
- shredprez 6y agoThe Four Horse-thems of the Fox News Apocalypse? (Edit: boo, your edit ruined my great joke). Seriously though, Q-Anon has to be number one.
- inops 6y agoPolitics, as mentioned above is a big part. QAnon in America has been highlighted, but it's hard not to point out that want of orthodoxy, righteousness and belonging has found a home in people with left-wing characteristics as well. Social justice seems to be a main outlet. The prostrations demanded of certain people, the tone/speech policing, and the talk of boogey-men that lurk around every corner -- all have obvious analogies with religion.
- JKCalhoun 6y agoJapan surprises me. Religion seems nearly absent from their daily lives. There is ritual around death and marriage. The scene of a temples will be typically older people eliciting prayers for health, relieving ailments. But little else that I have observed. It is perhaps the rest of the rigidity of their society that gives them a sense of belonging to, serving the whole, a notion of laws, rules, guidelines....
- odiroot 6y ago> Seems like religiosity is a neurological need, but church is not. So faith is, religion is not.
- higerordermap 6y agoSo do you judge non-abrahamic religions as faiths or religions or paganism or ....