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I think it’s worth noting that that finding is not universal, and other studies do find the opposite. My brief skim through Google scholar does seem to show a f

by 542458 6y ago

I think it’s worth noting that that finding is not universal, and other studies do find the opposite. My brief skim through Google scholar does seem to show a fairly divided field here. http://www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/Whitening%20MS%20R2%20Accepted.pdf http://www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/Whitening%20MS%... https://www.alexandria.unisg.ch/19805/1/Cole%20et%20al.%202004,%20Sex%20Roles.pdf https://www.alexandria.unisg.ch/19805/1/Cole%20et%20al.%2020... https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/36436480/Gender_et_biais_dattraction_dans_les_Hiring_decision.pdf?1422525434=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DGender_and_Attractiveness_Biases_in_Hiri.pdf&Expires=1616939918&Signature=MmLeXLQe-IMu53-mZtWPQbuzqRpDexoCgofpDJSJJF5Z7ZDP9obZiQJK~AsEHtYZ056KIrR6IcfiV4uJqyiRb--cyqvhN-CtE2KBplDm0ZHLBZaXGmJjA-iiRsYdFxz~of-HjlVIWt6DkG8nxPLZjndo~nA9Ki~~RJz~OjIDWFd8EGMPiBvXMjsf8zIN6HfpOI6ifsp70v-fvGmZ3FgfIldstB3Q4hhbaa6eRtz2c8cKmozrgKkCrN0t22AzKnG8PXCgWHytp9oDhzPpn99nhCANUhBCKbu6A14lBz3VtWsvyUvKZIRBDwCcWZrJhqlXn5jIgBbMAnE0wlMAG64ILA__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/36436480/Gender_et_bia...

msoad 6y ago
Those are from decades ago
- 542458 6y ago
  The first link is from 2016. The only one that rises to “decades” ago is the last.
smt88 6y ago
It's impossible to control for the culture of the organizations who are reviewing the applicants. In the US, if you sent anonymized resumes to old, large companies in Industry X and then sent them to new, small companies in Industry Y, you are likely to get very different results. Then your results become very dependent on how well you randomize those organizations, which is very difficult. If you get a few more "X" orgs instead of "Y" orgs, your results look totally different.
mpweiher 6y ago
Hmm... First study: "Minorities may be particularly likely to experience disadvantage when they apply to ostensibly pro-diversity employers." That doesn't quite fit the narrative. Also, the study examines the practice of "resume whitening" as something that some minority applicants (less than 50%, so a minority) do to combat their expectations of potential bias. It does not say anything itself about whether such bias exists. Second study: "Male recruiters’ perceptions of applicants’ work experiences did not differ depending on applicant gender. However, female recruiters perceived male applicants’ resumes to re- port more work experiences than resumes of female applicants." So female recruiters discriminate against females, male recruiters don't discriminate. Also doesn't fit the narrative. Third link only got me an error message. Anyway, I don't think any of these studies actually supports your assertion.
- developer92 6y ago
  The first one might be because companies that make a big deal about being pro diversity have already identified a problem and are trying to combat it by making big deal (not necessarily by doing anything else), whereas normal companies don't need to advertise that because they already have a wide variety of employees.

by 542458 6y ago

msoad 6y ago

Those are from decades ago

542458 6y ago
The first link is from 2016. The only one that rises to “decades” ago is the last.

smt88 6y ago

It's impossible to control for the culture of the organizations who are reviewing the applicants. In the US, if you sent anonymized resumes to old, large companies in Industry X and then sent them to new, small companies in Industry Y, you are likely to get very different results. Then your results become very dependent on how well you randomize those organizations, which is very difficult. If you get a few more "X" orgs instead of "Y" orgs, your results look totally different.

mpweiher 6y ago

Hmm... First study: "Minorities may be particularly likely to experience disadvantage when they apply to ostensibly pro-diversity employers." That doesn't quite fit the narrative. Also, the study examines the practice of "resume whitening" as something that some minority applicants (less than 50%, so a minority) do to combat their expectations of potential bias. It does not say anything itself about whether such bias exists. Second study: "Male recruiters’ perceptions of applicants’ work experiences did not differ depending on applicant gender. However, female recruiters perceived male applicants’ resumes to re- port more work experiences than resumes of female applicants." So female recruiters discriminate against females, male recruiters don't discriminate. Also doesn't fit the narrative. Third link only got me an error message. Anyway, I don't think any of these studies actually supports your assertion.

developer92 6y ago
The first one might be because companies that make a big deal about being pro diversity have already identified a problem and are trying to combat it by making big deal (not necessarily by doing anything else), whereas normal companies don't need to advertise that because they already have a wide variety of employees.