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Wearing a seatbelt was already monitored via vehicle telemetry, so this is patent nonsense.

loloquwowndueo 6y ago
Without visual confirmation, the driver could either buckle the seatbelt under themselves (buckle over the empty seat and then sit on it) or have a buckle (yes, just a buckle) to trick the sensor into thinking all is well. I’ve seen taxi drivers do this to avoid having to actually buckle up; I guess it’s uncomfortable to them? I wonder if wearing a shirt with an image of a seatbelt would be enough to trick the camera or AI :)
- EarlKing 6y ago
  Buckling the seatbelt and sitting on it (implying that they're going to just buckle once and never bother with it) is easily detected via vehicle telemetry. They track every time you buckle and unbuckle the belt. Anyone who isn't buckling and unbuckling at the expected rate is flagged. Occasionally this results in the discovery of a faulty sensor which gets replaced, but nine times out of ten it results in the discovery of someone violating company policy and thus incurring an infraction. They don't need a camera for this.
  - loloquwowndueo 6y ago
    The car itself tells you when it expects you to buckle up by beeping annoyingly, so it sounds like beating this method just requires the little bit of discipline to unbuckle your “phantom buckle” every time you get out of the car.
    - EarlKing 6y ago
      Honestly that doesn't even really save you any time. Neither does leaving the side loading door open constantly (though I've witnessed drivers from other DSPs doing that, too). That's another thing that vehicle telemetry can already tell them, so this is still simply unnecessary.
    - brtkdotse 6y ago
      At that point it’s just childish defiance. Just wear the damn belt, it saves lives!
      - loloquwowndueo 6y ago
        Oh no contest from me - I’m just telling you what I’ve seen in the wild :) also I don’t think it’s about saving time, but about the seatbelt being uncomfortable over long periods (observed this with taxi drivers who are behind the wheel a lot - another thing I’ve seen is, they buckle up when entering the highway, unbuckle when exiting into a residential neighbourhood - police presence and fines for not having the seat belt on are tougher on the highway. At this point they are actually wasting time vs. just leaving the seat belt on all the time, so it must be because of the discomfort... I guess)

Without visual confirmation, the driver could either buckle the seatbelt under themselves (buckle over the empty seat and then sit on it) or have a buckle (yes, just a buckle) to trick the sensor into thinking all is well. I’ve seen taxi drivers do this to avoid having to actually buckle up; I guess it’s uncomfortable to them? I wonder if wearing a shirt with an image of a seatbelt would be enough to trick the camera or AI :)

EarlKing 6y ago
Buckling the seatbelt and sitting on it (implying that they're going to just buckle once and never bother with it) is easily detected via vehicle telemetry. They track every time you buckle and unbuckle the belt. Anyone who isn't buckling and unbuckling at the expected rate is flagged. Occasionally this results in the discovery of a faulty sensor which gets replaced, but nine times out of ten it results in the discovery of someone violating company policy and thus incurring an infraction. They don't need a camera for this.
- loloquwowndueo 6y ago
  The car itself tells you when it expects you to buckle up by beeping annoyingly, so it sounds like beating this method just requires the little bit of discipline to unbuckle your “phantom buckle” every time you get out of the car.
  - EarlKing 6y ago
    Honestly that doesn't even really save you any time. Neither does leaving the side loading door open constantly (though I've witnessed drivers from other DSPs doing that, too). That's another thing that vehicle telemetry can already tell them, so this is still simply unnecessary.
  - brtkdotse 6y ago
    At that point it’s just childish defiance. Just wear the damn belt, it saves lives!
    - loloquwowndueo 6y ago
      Oh no contest from me - I’m just telling you what I’ve seen in the wild :) also I don’t think it’s about saving time, but about the seatbelt being uncomfortable over long periods (observed this with taxi drivers who are behind the wheel a lot - another thing I’ve seen is, they buckle up when entering the highway, unbuckle when exiting into a residential neighbourhood - police presence and fines for not having the seat belt on are tougher on the highway. At this point they are actually wasting time vs. just leaving the seat belt on all the time, so it must be because of the discomfort... I guess)