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They sure have the size and the means to make an impact though.

by mathieubordere 6y ago

tomhoward 6y ago
Most places have statutory or industry-standard requirements on shift length limits and minimum rest periods for driving or anything else that carries fatigue-related safety risks. Is there any evidence that Amazon puts pressure on drivers to break these limits? I haven't heard of this being the case. But neither Amazon nor any other freight/delivery company can control its drivers' entire lives. No matter how much it pays, it can't stop some workers working multiple jobs - due to having severe debts or other personal motivations to work more than they should.
- EarlKing 6y ago
  Yes and no. Being tired on-shift is generally only an issue for drivers with 10-hour shifts and a long commute. A lot of DSPs only service 8-hour routes partly for this reason (the other reason being, obviously, lack of desire to pay overtime). Amazon Logistics used to look the other way when their drivers ran over the alloted time for their route because on-time delivery was deemed the more important variable for them. At some point I guess someone looked at how much they were spending on overtime and freaked out because that practice ended real quick. I could see someone being tired if they were covering extra shifts, though, which may be a problem in some DSPs that have more routes than drivers. This happens when too many people call off and/or the DSP doesn't reserve enough drivers in the schedule that day to cover call-offs. On a long enough timeline that will definitely lead to exhaustion in drivers. That said, that problem isn't solved by AI. That problem is solved by placing realistic weekly limits on how much drivers can work and penalizing DSPs that fail to budget enough drivers for call-offs and/or who fail to terminate drivers that habitually fail to show. This porkoscope is unnecessary.

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They sure have the size and the means to make an impact though.

by mathieubordere 6y ago

They sure have the size and the means to make an impact though.

tomhoward 6y ago
Most places have statutory or industry-standard requirements on shift length limits and minimum rest periods for driving or anything else that carries fatigue-related safety risks. Is there any evidence that Amazon puts pressure on drivers to break these limits? I haven't heard of this being the case. But neither Amazon nor any other freight/delivery company can control its drivers' entire lives. No matter how much it pays, it can't stop some workers working multiple jobs - due to having severe debts or other personal motivations to work more than they should.
- EarlKing 6y ago
  Yes and no. Being tired on-shift is generally only an issue for drivers with 10-hour shifts and a long commute. A lot of DSPs only service 8-hour routes partly for this reason (the other reason being, obviously, lack of desire to pay overtime). Amazon Logistics used to look the other way when their drivers ran over the alloted time for their route because on-time delivery was deemed the more important variable for them. At some point I guess someone looked at how much they were spending on overtime and freaked out because that practice ended real quick. I could see someone being tired if they were covering extra shifts, though, which may be a problem in some DSPs that have more routes than drivers. This happens when too many people call off and/or the DSP doesn't reserve enough drivers in the schedule that day to cover call-offs. On a long enough timeline that will definitely lead to exhaustion in drivers. That said, that problem isn't solved by AI. That problem is solved by placing realistic weekly limits on how much drivers can work and penalizing DSPs that fail to budget enough drivers for call-offs and/or who fail to terminate drivers that habitually fail to show. This porkoscope is unnecessary.