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I played a ton of Among Us in 2020, which is a game where you have to figure out which of your friends are lying. I quickly learned that going off "well they're

I played a ton of Among Us in 2020, which is a game where you have to figure out which of your friends are lying. I quickly learned that going off "well they're acting pretty guilty" was an easy way to lose. A friend of mine would immediately jump to accuse me whenever I cast suspicion on them, even if they were innocent. Way better to rely on actual evidence and not hunches, even more so when it comes to giving someone a prison sentence.

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Natsu 6y ago
I did the same, though there are weird people who lie for no reason and screw over the team, too, and sometimes you catch those idiots in a provable lie. The best way to catch liars is to know things they don't know and trap them with that. In Among Us, it could be as simple as two people saw each other do a visual task (one that proves they're not an impostor) then have someone accuse the wrong person, or worse, be the only person that wasn't cleared that's left.
dllthomas 6y ago
One Night Ultimate Werewolf has the additional wrinkle that initially most (or all) players don't even know whether they should be lying or not.
IIAOPSW 6y ago
For me the best game for this is Diplomacy.
gizmo686 6y ago
There is something of a meta-game there that doesn't exist in "real" cases like criminal investigations. Since everyone knows that they will be guilty some of the time, a reasonably strategy is to act guilty all of the time.
- XorNot 6y ago
  Except this comes in in real life all the time: "you don't need a lawyer here, you're not guilty..." - yes you do. You always need a lawyer. You always should plead the 5th if it applies. No, you should never be talking to law enforcement without a lawyer. No you should not let law enforcement "take a look around" without a warrant. Real life is full of things you absolutely should do which are sold up and down through media as "looking guilty".
  - TazeTSchnitzel 6y ago
    The best 47 minutes of legal advice you'll ever get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
  - path411 6y ago
    Yep, if anything, being innocent is the most important time for having a lawyer. I think not getting charged with a crime you didn't commit is more important than getting away with a crime that you did.
koonsolo 6y ago
Also been playing a lot of Among Us with my friends. We started out realizing how difficult lying really is. The early games definitely were characterized by just people not able to hide their lies (maybe we were not trained at it ;)). But after some training it becomes easier to lie, and of course more difficult to spot. We also sometimes play it with my kids and those from my buddies, but they have a hard time lying, basically partly admitting when they are accused.

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Natsu 6y ago

I did the same, though there are weird people who lie for no reason and screw over the team, too, and sometimes you catch those idiots in a provable lie. The best way to catch liars is to know things they don't know and trap them with that. In Among Us, it could be as simple as two people saw each other do a visual task (one that proves they're not an impostor) then have someone accuse the wrong person, or worse, be the only person that wasn't cleared that's left.

dllthomas 6y ago

One Night Ultimate Werewolf has the additional wrinkle that initially most (or all) players don't even know whether they should be lying or not.

IIAOPSW 6y ago

For me the best game for this is Diplomacy.

gizmo686 6y ago

There is something of a meta-game there that doesn't exist in "real" cases like criminal investigations. Since everyone knows that they will be guilty some of the time, a reasonably strategy is to act guilty all of the time.

XorNot 6y ago
Except this comes in in real life all the time: "you don't need a lawyer here, you're not guilty..." - yes you do. You always need a lawyer. You always should plead the 5th if it applies. No, you should never be talking to law enforcement without a lawyer. No you should not let law enforcement "take a look around" without a warrant. Real life is full of things you absolutely should do which are sold up and down through media as "looking guilty".
- TazeTSchnitzel 6y ago
  The best 47 minutes of legal advice you'll ever get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
- path411 6y ago
  Yep, if anything, being innocent is the most important time for having a lawyer. I think not getting charged with a crime you didn't commit is more important than getting away with a crime that you did.

koonsolo 6y ago

Also been playing a lot of Among Us with my friends. We started out realizing how difficult lying really is. The early games definitely were characterized by just people not able to hide their lies (maybe we were not trained at it ;)). But after some training it becomes easier to lie, and of course more difficult to spot. We also sometimes play it with my kids and those from my buddies, but they have a hard time lying, basically partly admitting when they are accused.