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Two thoughts: 1) If law enforcement ever has the time, they might want to play Maffia or Werewolf. Playing those games enough makes you realize how idiosyncrat
by mettamage 6y ago
Two thoughts:
1) If law enforcement ever has the time, they might want to play Maffia or Werewolf. Playing those games enough makes you realize how idiosyncratic lying can be.
2) I'm glad to know that my lecture on lying when I studied psychology basically had the same conclusions as this article.
- thaumasiotes 6y ago> Playing those games enough makes you realize how idiosyncratic lying can be. In my view this is just one more error springing from the root error of turning "a jury of your peers" into "a jury of random strangers". One point of being judged by a jury of your peers is that they are familiar with the types of things you're likely to do. But another is that your peers are familiar with the ways in which you're likely to react to things.
- edmundsauto 6y agoPeople are practiced at telling lies that their peers believe. Random strangers are better at being skeptical because they are not empathetic about the excuses that are necessary to smooth out an explanation.
- greggman3 6y agoAre random strangers better? The stereotype is they just based on looks and mannerisms. Dark skin + sweats = guilty. etc...
- edmundsauto 6y agoNo, I think everyone is probably equally terrible at detecting lies. Except for the few people who have actually been tested and shown to be good at it. Any other narrative is just a story - we're all pretty bad at guessing each others intentions.
- easton 6y agoAmong Us is the most recent version of those games, and it made me realize how good my friends were at gaslighting me.
- Godel_unicode 6y agoWhat if I told you that playing a low-stakes game and real life are not the same thing?
- Clewza313 6y agoMost real life lies are also pretty low stakes. "Oh, I'd love to come to Aunt Mabel's party but I can't." "We should totally do lunch sometime."
- Godel_unicode 6y agoWhich is, of course, totally irrelevant. Nobody cares about detecting those lies. Where's the evidence that big lies are in any way related to little lies?
- graeme 6y agoEveryone tells little lies. But it someone, in a game for example, is so good at lying that you have no idea whether they’re telling the truth, that raises some questions. How can you trust your judgement on whether they’re truthful about bigger things?
- klibertp 6y ago> How can you trust your judgement on whether they’re truthful about bigger things? You can't. You will believe what you want to believe, and good liars are great at finding out what you want. A well constructed lie rests on verifiable foundations - ie. they also know when not to lie to earn your trust - and comprises of almost exclusively truths. There is no way to defend yourself once you become the target and start listening. The only winning move is not to play.