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Re: lockdowns > The shock of the second wave is changing people’s behaviour. Governors and mayors are now tightening restrictions and people are obeying them m

Re: lockdowns > The shock of the second wave is changing people’s behaviour. Governors and mayors are now tightening restrictions and people are obeying them more. From March 22nd a nightly curfew in Bahia begins at 6pm rather than 10pm. Bahians have recently cut in half the distance they travel, according to mobile-phone data. This is slowing covid-19’s spread. Dr Vilas-Boas estimates that the number of active cases in Bahia has dropped from 21,000 to 17,000. The number of patients waiting for beds in icus fell from 513 on March 12th to 280 ten days later. Emphasis added.

giacaglia 6y ago
Yeah, that was not the case in any state in the US. States always had the control in Brazil
- pmiller2 6y ago
  Incorrect regarding US states: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0
  - giacaglia 6y ago
    This paper talks about different government interventions and their effectiveness and there is no analysis of US states. There is no control group here and this is just bad science
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      Tell that to the to editorial board of the 33rd highest impact factor journal in the world: https://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php https://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php I suggest you read more closely. There are multiple references to interventions at the state level in the US. BTW, how would you ethically design a study like this including a control group?
      - giacaglia 6y ago
        Appeal to authority fallacy. Go back to middle school
        pmiller2 6y ago
        Are you claiming that Nature publishes "bad science?" Less snark, more substance. Or, at least change up your insults. They bore me.
giacaglia 6y ago
If you've studied any of the SARS viruses you would know that they spread through the water. What a terrible take. Go back to middle school
- pmiller2 6y ago
  > The virus that causes COVID-19 hasn't been detected in drinking water. Water treatment facilities have processes to filter and disinfect water before it goes into your home. [...] > There's no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads through swimming pools, hot tubs and water playgrounds. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/can-coronavirus-spread-food-water/faq-20485479 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/e... Less snark, more substance next time, please?
  - giacaglia 6y ago
    Lol, you really need to study science and stop Googling stuff and trying to reply to my comments. You should go back to middle school, really... You just used an appeal to authority fallacy in one of your arguments.... Study a little bit more before commenting it out in something that you have no knowledge about
    - pmiller2 6y ago
      No, I did not "appeal to authority." I showed you where the Mayo Clinic documented that COVID is not spread by water. You can believe them or not, but they are considered a reliable source of medical information, so, the burden is on you to provide a more reliable source saying otherwise. You telling people to "go back to middle school" does not count as a reliable source. Again, less snark, more substance, please? BTW, your comments here are nothing but ad hominem and unsourced assertions. Try a little harder, please?

giacaglia 6y ago

Yeah, that was not the case in any state in the US. States always had the control in Brazil

pmiller2 6y ago
Incorrect regarding US states: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-020-01009-0
- giacaglia 6y ago
  This paper talks about different government interventions and their effectiveness and there is no analysis of US states. There is no control group here and this is just bad science
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    Tell that to the to editorial board of the 33rd highest impact factor journal in the world: https://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php https://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php I suggest you read more closely. There are multiple references to interventions at the state level in the US. BTW, how would you ethically design a study like this including a control group?
    - giacaglia 6y ago
      Appeal to authority fallacy. Go back to middle school
      - pmiller2 6y ago
        Are you claiming that Nature publishes "bad science?" Less snark, more substance. Or, at least change up your insults. They bore me.

giacaglia 6y ago

If you've studied any of the SARS viruses you would know that they spread through the water. What a terrible take. Go back to middle school

pmiller2 6y ago
> The virus that causes COVID-19 hasn't been detected in drinking water. Water treatment facilities have processes to filter and disinfect water before it goes into your home. [...] > There's no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads through swimming pools, hot tubs and water playgrounds. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/can-coronavirus-spread-food-water/faq-20485479 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/e... Less snark, more substance next time, please?
- giacaglia 6y ago
  Lol, you really need to study science and stop Googling stuff and trying to reply to my comments. You should go back to middle school, really... You just used an appeal to authority fallacy in one of your arguments.... Study a little bit more before commenting it out in something that you have no knowledge about
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    No, I did not "appeal to authority." I showed you where the Mayo Clinic documented that COVID is not spread by water. You can believe them or not, but they are considered a reliable source of medical information, so, the burden is on you to provide a more reliable source saying otherwise. You telling people to "go back to middle school" does not count as a reliable source. Again, less snark, more substance, please? BTW, your comments here are nothing but ad hominem and unsourced assertions. Try a little harder, please?