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All the American companies that choose to censor the word Taiwan and call it part of China are directly complicit with this. No rational person in a position of
by gentleman11 6y ago
All the American companies that choose to censor the word Taiwan and call it part of China are directly complicit with this. No rational person in a position of responsibility could have thought that this wasn’t the long term intention
- justicezyx 6y agoWhich intentional treaty denied Taiwan being part of China? BTW, it's totally fine for people living on the Taiwan island to form an independent country, like what Jewish people did. But please, do not annex my home country's sovereign land.
- phyalow 6y agohttp://blog.yalebooks.com/2021/01/26/china-and-the-fate-of-taiwan/ http://blog.yalebooks.com/2021/01/26/china-and-the-fate-of-t...
- everybodyknows 6y ago> China forgot about Taiwan, treated it as part of a foreign country and even regarded its people as part of a separate Taiwanese nation. This remained true for almost half a century, from the loss of the island in 1895 until the “rediscovery” of the island by China’s Nationalist government in 1942. Anecdata: A Taiwanese expat coworker told me that Kai-Shek’s arrival, with the remains of his KMT army, felt much like an invasion to the natives — such as his own parents. This was not because they had CCP sympathies, rather because they felt historically closer to Japan. This despite his family being of Han ethnicity themselves. A turning point came when a non-KMT candidate won the presidency. If Taiwan’s internal rift continues to heal, Beijing will feel more urgency than ever.
- cwwc 6y agoSorry bud, but didn't Taiwan lose China; not the other way around? If anything, Taiwan has a claim on China as sovereign land. This is Stupid, yes, but but it would (very roughly) be like if in 1066 the Normans had lost -- and then they kept claiming "Britain is ours!" Years later. Uhhh... No. Britain would be the Anglo-Saxon's. No question. Call me out if my logic is off -- but this seems more reasonable at a glance.
- sthnblllII 6y agoIt would be accurate if the UK today were claiming northern France as an integral part of England.
- tablespoon 6y ago> It would be accurate if the UK today were claiming northern France as an integral part of England. The ROC aka Taiwan does officially claim the rest of China as an integral part of its territory, and the CCP would get pissed and probably start a war if it didn't. This shit is complicated. When it comes to the issue of Taiwan, the de facto and de jure positions are often completely contradictory.
- pjc50 6y agoThis claim was made for seven centuries. Claims can be surprisingly durable.
- pjc50 6y agoHilariously, the Normans that conquered Britain lost the fight for their home lands in Normandy, and England retained claims over parts of France for centuries. I think it lasted until the Treaty of Utrecht? Edit: no, it lasted until the Revolution, seven centuries after 1066. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_claims_to_the_French_throne https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_claims_to_the_French...
- paulryanrogers 6y agoIs not censoring the word 'Taiwan' or allowing its flag equivalent to annexation of another nation's land? Forgive my ignorance but wasn't modern Taiwan founded by the remnants of the Chinese republic that preceded the CCP. If so wouldn't the burden be citing an international treaty recognizing the CCP as the government of Taiwan?
- justicezyx 6y agoEvery significant international teary recognize the CCP government, otherwise they won't even be a nation...
- jancsika 6y agoC'mon, outraged web person #eleventy thousand twenty two-- take 15 seconds out of your outrager to cite a source. Here's how it works. You paste a link you found, like so: https://www.businessinsider.com/which-companies-have-changed-taiwan-description-china-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/which-companies-have-changed...
- pyrophane 6y ago> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Fricken 6y agoNot even the American government officially recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_relations#:~:text=In%20keeping%20with%20its%20China,where%20statehood%20is%20not%20a https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States...
- tablespoon 6y ago> Not even the American government officially recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. Kinda sorta. The US treats Taiwan as a de facto sovereign nation, but doesn't give it de jure recognition because of the complications caused by the PRC's conditions for diplomatic relations. So focusing on "official recognition" is pretty misleading in this exceedingly weird case.
- jtdev 6y agoTrump did in many regards, and the PC crowd lost their fucking minds over it.
- headsupftw 6y agoAre you high or something? Last time I checked Taiwan is not a member of the U.N. and the United States does not recognize Taiwan as a country.
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