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If China takes Taiwan, that would shift the balance of power due to Taiwan's role as the leading global chip fabricator. The most recent episode of the podcast

If China takes Taiwan, that would shift the balance of power due to Taiwan's role as the leading global chip fabricator. The most recent episode of the podcast ChinaTalk, "China's Chip Dreams", dated March 26, 2021, is relevant.

leke 6y ago
It would be good for the rest of the world to start having an alternative source of chip development. It's really not a good idea to have such dependence on one producer you can trust.
- randomsearch 6y ago
  I guess you haven't been paying attention to recent announcements in the US... they are pursuing just that policy since Biden came into office.
  - nomdep 6y ago
    Since Trump, but it is great that Biden kept it.
    - randomsearch 6y ago
      Nope, here’s one of the announcements: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-supply-chains-idUSKBN2AO13D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-supply-chains-i...
      - leereeves 6y ago
        Not at all surprising that Biden doesn't want to give Trump credit, but the push for more US chipmaking did begin under Trump: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-chip-makers-including-intel-seek-semiconductor-self-sufficiency-11589103002 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-chip-makers-including... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/tsmc-to-build-us-chip-factory.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/tsmc-to-build-us-chip-factor...
- rolph 6y ago
  i wish i could share the link, but i havnt bookmarked it, there was a considerable discussion[s] regarding small scale chip fabrication in a garage just for the "shizenschpiel" [ADNDM] turns out i can share the link after a brief search here is one of them : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24604093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24604093 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fTB3hG5cA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fTB3hG5cA and credit where credit is due: http://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/ http://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/
yumraj 6y ago
Well rather than let China get control of the fabs, US and allies might just decide to blow them up. No one really knows how this is all going to play out..
ginko 6y ago
I don't see a scenario where China gets anything more than a smoldering crater in terms of industry if they manage to take Taiwan by force.
- Simulacra 6y ago
  Maybe a solution is to arm the Taiwanese citizens.
  - bootlooped 6y ago
    They already have mandatory service. I don't think you would get a worthwhile benefit from passing out guns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Taiwan

leke 6y ago

It would be good for the rest of the world to start having an alternative source of chip development. It's really not a good idea to have such dependence on one producer you can trust.

randomsearch 6y ago
I guess you haven't been paying attention to recent announcements in the US... they are pursuing just that policy since Biden came into office.
- nomdep 6y ago
  Since Trump, but it is great that Biden kept it.
  - randomsearch 6y ago
    Nope, here’s one of the announcements: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-supply-chains-idUSKBN2AO13D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-supply-chains-i...
    - leereeves 6y ago
      Not at all surprising that Biden doesn't want to give Trump credit, but the push for more US chipmaking did begin under Trump: https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-chip-makers-including-intel-seek-semiconductor-self-sufficiency-11589103002 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-chip-makers-including... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/tsmc-to-build-us-chip-factory.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/tsmc-to-build-us-chip-factor...
rolph 6y ago
i wish i could share the link, but i havnt bookmarked it, there was a considerable discussion[s] regarding small scale chip fabrication in a garage just for the "shizenschpiel" [ADNDM] turns out i can share the link after a brief search here is one of them : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24604093 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24604093 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fTB3hG5cA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23fTB3hG5cA and credit where credit is due: http://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/ http://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/

yumraj 6y ago

Well rather than let China get control of the fabs, US and allies might just decide to blow them up. No one really knows how this is all going to play out..

ginko 6y ago

I don't see a scenario where China gets anything more than a smoldering crater in terms of industry if they manage to take Taiwan by force.

Simulacra 6y ago
Maybe a solution is to arm the Taiwanese citizens.
- bootlooped 6y ago
  They already have mandatory service. I don't think you would get a worthwhile benefit from passing out guns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Taiwan