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> The issue is not finding a place that's geologically stable now. But finding one that's geologically stable in 850.000 years. Something that takes several h

> The issue is not finding a place that's geologically stable now. But finding one that's geologically stable in 850.000 years. Something that takes several hundred thousand years for decay isn't actually dangerous. Short half-life: High radioactivity. Long half-life: Low radioactivity. Furthermore, spent nuclear fuel can be recycled up to 95%: > https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/5-fast-facts-about-spent-nuclear-fuel https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/5-fast-facts-about-spent-... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlMDDhQ9-pE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlMDDhQ9-pE > https://www.rosatom.ru/en/press-centre/news/the-first-serial-batch-of-mox-fuel-loaded-into-bn-800-fast-reactor-at-beloyarsk-npp/ https://www.rosatom.ru/en/press-centre/news/the-first-serial... > East germany choose the salt mine closest to the west german border. And in retaliation west germany build theirs right next to it, in the closest saly mine that they had to the east german border. East Germany never put any spent fuel into their own soil. They sent the spent fuel back to the USSR. Spent fuel is a resource with a market value. The GDR and the USSR didn't just threw that away. > Nuclear tech is awesome and great, and too dangerous for careless, political, corrupt, humanity to be trusted with. It's actually pretty safe and has among the lowest numbers of deaths per TWh: > https://ourworldindata.org/safest-sources-of-energy https://ourworldindata.org/safest-sources-of-energy > So I'd rather spend that money on renewables, where the worst thing that can happen is someone hitting you with a PV cell. Actually, the worst thing is that it causes Germany to build new gas power plants and stop shutting down coal plants: > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_und_im_Bau_befindlicher_Gaskraftwerke_in_Deutschland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_und_im_Bau_bef... > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#Nord_Stream_2 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream#Nord_Stream_2 > https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Sachgebiete/ElektrizitaetundGas/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Versorgungssicherheit/Erzeugungskapazitaeten/Systemrelevante_KW/Systemrel_KW_node.html https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Sachgebiete/Elektrizitae... > https://www.wa.de/hamm/kraftwerk-westfalen-in-hamm-uentrop-ist-systemrelevant-90245477.html https://www.wa.de/hamm/kraftwerk-westfalen-in-hamm-uentrop-i... > https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.grosskraftwerk-mannheim-systemrelevant-kohlekraftwerk-darf-block-7-noch-nicht-vom-netz-nehmen.e02dcb17-f186-4c43-a560-88fc7f62c13b.html https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.grosskraftwerk-man... > https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.energieversorgung-im-land-enbw-baut-neues-kraftwerk-im-kreis-ludwigsburg.c5ab8105-272e-4dd1-8552-6cb86680e5fb.html https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.energieversorgung-... > https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchen-kohleausstieg-heizkraftwerk-nord-verbot-1.4663664 https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchen-kohleausstieg-... > https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/ruhrgebiet/datteln-vier-geht-ans-netz-100.html https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/ruhrgebiet/datteln-vier-geht... Compare Germany's and France's emissions in the energy sector: > https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-emissions-by-sector?time=latest&country=~DEU https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-emissions-by-sector?t... > https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-emissions-by-sector?time=latest&country=~FRA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-emissions-by-sector?t... Germany emits SEVEN(!) times as much as the French for producing electricity and heat. The nuclear phase out is causing 1100 premature death every year in Germany and causes additional costs of $12 billion per year: > https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf And Germany has the highest electricity prices - worldwide: > https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/electricity_prices/ https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/electricity_prices/ Renewables have actually caused multiple deaths during the Texas blizzard because they couldn't provide enough electricity during the cold.

j-pb 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morsleben_radioactive_waste_repository https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morsleben_radioactive_waste_... Yeah because only fuel is highly radioactive... Texas failed to secure their electrical grid, that has nothing to do with renewables. We got renewables running in far worse weather conditions. Capitalism and greed killed those texans. You're making my case that people can't be trusted with nuclear, even though the tech in and of itself could be safe.
- vidarh 6y ago
  Renewables also cost numerous deaths for other reasons. Hydro is the cause of the by far most lethal single power plant related failure (the Banqiao dam failures). Rooftop solar causes more deaths per unit of electricity delivered from installation related accidents alone to be uncompetitive with nuclear. Generally the more construction that is needed for a given production method, the more deaths, and that tends to go in the favour of nuclear given the sheer amount of power generated once a plant is operational. Large solar installations may win out over nuclear in terms of safety, but it's hard to get good data.
- why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
  Ok, i'll bite. You know nothing about the operational details of power grid infrastructure in Texas and what lead to the problems encountered. Here is a good video explaining what happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08mwXICY4JM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08mwXICY4JM Just FYI, Grady from Practical Engineering channel who made the video is a civil engineer. I also recommend his entire series about power grid (well, actually all his videos are great). )
  - rrss 6y ago
    How is that video inconsistent with j-pb's comment? The video describes what happened, and summarizes the cause as: > Basically, the entire system was ill-prepared for a storm of this magnitude. The video addresses only what happened, and (intentionally) does not address why it happened - why the system was ill-prepared. but it's absolutely true that there are "renewables running in far worse weather conditions" (and natural gas). all of these systems can be winterized. j-pb thinks that the system was unprepared due to "capitalism and greed," which IMO is not an unreasonable idea. Why do you think the various Texas organizations basically ignored the FERC/NERC recommendations for cold weather preparedness from 2011?

j-pb 6y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morsleben_radioactive_waste_repository https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morsleben_radioactive_waste_... Yeah because only fuel is highly radioactive... Texas failed to secure their electrical grid, that has nothing to do with renewables. We got renewables running in far worse weather conditions. Capitalism and greed killed those texans. You're making my case that people can't be trusted with nuclear, even though the tech in and of itself could be safe.

vidarh 6y ago
Renewables also cost numerous deaths for other reasons. Hydro is the cause of the by far most lethal single power plant related failure (the Banqiao dam failures). Rooftop solar causes more deaths per unit of electricity delivered from installation related accidents alone to be uncompetitive with nuclear. Generally the more construction that is needed for a given production method, the more deaths, and that tends to go in the favour of nuclear given the sheer amount of power generated once a plant is operational. Large solar installations may win out over nuclear in terms of safety, but it's hard to get good data.
why_Mr_Anderson 6y ago
Ok, i'll bite. You know nothing about the operational details of power grid infrastructure in Texas and what lead to the problems encountered. Here is a good video explaining what happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08mwXICY4JM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08mwXICY4JM Just FYI, Grady from Practical Engineering channel who made the video is a civil engineer. I also recommend his entire series about power grid (well, actually all his videos are great). )
- rrss 6y ago
  How is that video inconsistent with j-pb's comment? The video describes what happened, and summarizes the cause as: > Basically, the entire system was ill-prepared for a storm of this magnitude. The video addresses only what happened, and (intentionally) does not address why it happened - why the system was ill-prepared. but it's absolutely true that there are "renewables running in far worse weather conditions" (and natural gas). all of these systems can be winterized. j-pb thinks that the system was unprepared due to "capitalism and greed," which IMO is not an unreasonable idea. Why do you think the various Texas organizations basically ignored the FERC/NERC recommendations for cold weather preparedness from 2011?