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I hope you don’t think you’re pwning them by repeating their point back to them thinking they care that you don’t care about whales and dogs anymore. It’s prett

I hope you don’t think you’re pwning them by repeating their point back to them thinking they care that you don’t care about whales and dogs anymore. It’s pretty weak snark, especially because you’re pretending to do something that agrees with their point thinking you got them good. I saw this sad interaction a lot in the wild when someone at lunch at work orders a vegetarian option and someone else leaves them in absolute tatters by responding “good, I’m going to order extra meat ;)” as if anyone else feels responsible for his choices.

imwillofficial 6y ago
He really got under your skin didn’t He? It was a joke my friend.
- Judgmentality 6y ago
  Jokes aren't well tolerated on HN to begin with, and that comment seems a lot more obnoxious than funny.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    You speak the truth.
    - frombody 6y ago
      www.reddit.com It's a website like this one, but you'll find more similar conversation to what you are looking for there.
      - Judgmentality 6y ago
        This is a perfect example of a poorly executed joke.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > It was a joke my friend. Can you explain the joke? What was the set up? What's the punchline?
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    It’s called hyperbole. Taking a stance so extreme from the expected that’s it’s humorous.
bluefirebrand 6y ago
I'm just showing that the argument can easily be used to draw the opposite and "wrong" conclusion from the one that was intended to be reached.
- seanwilson 6y ago
  You should reach a conclusion based on your beliefs. I don't see what point you prove by starting from beliefs you don't hold if that's what you mean. Do you genuinely not care if people are killing dolphins and whales and eating dogs though? I've no doubt some people exist that don't but I'm sure they're in the vast minority.
  - bluefirebrand 6y ago
    > Do you genuinely not care if people are killing dolphins and whales and eating dogs though No, but I do genuinely not care that people are killing and eating cows and cow products though. I don't really think anything could make me care about that at this point, certainly not enough to give up meat and cheese. So if we are making these things equivalent (which I don't believe they are), then I suppose I shouldn't care about the dolphins, whales and dogs. In order to be consistent.
    - seanwilson 6y ago
      > So if we are making these things equivalent (which I don't believe they are), then I suppose I shouldn't care about the dolphins, whales and dogs. In order to be consistent. I'm not making anything equivalent, I'm asking you about your beliefs and if they're well founded. Why is it okay to slaughter and eat a cow and not a dog or a whale or a cat? Your beliefs can still be consistent if you've justified the difference to yourself. I don't think "because it's traditional" or "because we've been doing it for hundreds of years" are good ethical reasons (which other countries could make about dogs and whales) for example.
      - bluefirebrand 6y ago
        > I'm not making anything equivalent Ok you say that, but your question > Why is it okay to slaughter and eat a cow and not a dog or a whale or a cat? implies equivalence. Without that equivalence the answer is obvious: Because they are different. It's ok to treat different things differently. But ok, so let's talk about equivalence. Obviously cows and whales are both mammals. Maybe that's why I should treat them the same. So is it ok to eat non-mammals? Snakes and lizards and fish? Why? They're still animals. So let's say it's not ok to eat animals. So we should eat plants. Why is that ok? They're still alive. They still die when you harvest them. Okay so it's not ok to kill and eat anything. So we starve. Obviously this is silly and reductive and does not represent reality. We have to eat. May as well eat cow.

imwillofficial 6y ago

He really got under your skin didn’t He? It was a joke my friend.

Judgmentality 6y ago
Jokes aren't well tolerated on HN to begin with, and that comment seems a lot more obnoxious than funny.
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- imwillofficial 6y ago
  You speak the truth.
  - frombody 6y ago
    www.reddit.com It's a website like this one, but you'll find more similar conversation to what you are looking for there.
    - Judgmentality 6y ago
      This is a perfect example of a poorly executed joke.
DanBC 6y ago
> It was a joke my friend. Can you explain the joke? What was the set up? What's the punchline?
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  It’s called hyperbole. Taking a stance so extreme from the expected that’s it’s humorous.

bluefirebrand 6y ago

I'm just showing that the argument can easily be used to draw the opposite and "wrong" conclusion from the one that was intended to be reached.

seanwilson 6y ago
You should reach a conclusion based on your beliefs. I don't see what point you prove by starting from beliefs you don't hold if that's what you mean. Do you genuinely not care if people are killing dolphins and whales and eating dogs though? I've no doubt some people exist that don't but I'm sure they're in the vast minority.
- bluefirebrand 6y ago
  > Do you genuinely not care if people are killing dolphins and whales and eating dogs though No, but I do genuinely not care that people are killing and eating cows and cow products though. I don't really think anything could make me care about that at this point, certainly not enough to give up meat and cheese. So if we are making these things equivalent (which I don't believe they are), then I suppose I shouldn't care about the dolphins, whales and dogs. In order to be consistent.
  - seanwilson 6y ago
    > So if we are making these things equivalent (which I don't believe they are), then I suppose I shouldn't care about the dolphins, whales and dogs. In order to be consistent. I'm not making anything equivalent, I'm asking you about your beliefs and if they're well founded. Why is it okay to slaughter and eat a cow and not a dog or a whale or a cat? Your beliefs can still be consistent if you've justified the difference to yourself. I don't think "because it's traditional" or "because we've been doing it for hundreds of years" are good ethical reasons (which other countries could make about dogs and whales) for example.
    - bluefirebrand 6y ago
      > I'm not making anything equivalent Ok you say that, but your question > Why is it okay to slaughter and eat a cow and not a dog or a whale or a cat? implies equivalence. Without that equivalence the answer is obvious: Because they are different. It's ok to treat different things differently. But ok, so let's talk about equivalence. Obviously cows and whales are both mammals. Maybe that's why I should treat them the same. So is it ok to eat non-mammals? Snakes and lizards and fish? Why? They're still animals. So let's say it's not ok to eat animals. So we should eat plants. Why is that ok? They're still alive. They still die when you harvest them. Okay so it's not ok to kill and eat anything. So we starve. Obviously this is silly and reductive and does not represent reality. We have to eat. May as well eat cow.