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The mayor said no, they followed her request. You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you?

dragontamer 6y ago
The Mayor has no say in the DC National Guard. The Mayor is almost completely irrelevant to this discussion. The Mayor isn't even in charge of security at the Capitol Building. DC Capitol Police are in charge of that, and they were absolutely asking for help / backup by 2:30pm. Literally Nansi Pelosi (ultimate authority of the DC Capitol Police) was on the phone asking for help at that time. > You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you? Just the boogieman who delayed help between the hours of 12:30 and 5pm on January 6th. And yes, I do believe we all should be interested in that timeframe.
- ganoushoreilly 6y ago
  Right so let me get this right. You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? You must have been asleep during 2020. The moment that happened everyone would have screame COUP COUP COUP! It's evident no matter what the outcome was, you would find a way to argue why it's Trumps fault. At this point we're not contributing anything else of value in this discussion and I have no desire to continue to counter you.
  - dragontamer 6y ago
    Look man, if you just wanna defend your boy Trump in this discussion, that's fine. I've laid out the facts and I think I'm satisfied with the state of my argument here. If you think I've made any factual errors in my logic, feel free to make a new response. But for now, I don't think your discussion points have any facts to stand on.
    - dang 6y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - nate_meurer 6y ago
    So to be clear, you're conceding that your whole argument about Trump being unable to deploy any troops in the district was incorrect. I don't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. > You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? Um, yes? The real (and obvious) issue is that Trump wanted his supporters to physically interfere. He invited them to a "wild" protest on the 6th, and on that day told them to go "show strength" at the capitol, and said he'd go with them. This is incitement in clear language. Then, instead of going with his supporters, he hustled back to the white house to watch on TV as his supporters broke into the capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence", and refused to lift a finger to deploy resources to stop it.
    - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
      K. You're right, Trump orange man bad. He's responsible for it all.
      - nate_meurer 6y ago
        You've already admitted that your argument regarding Trump's power to deploy troops was incorrect. Are you able to elaborate on what parts of my comment you disagree with?

The Mayor has no say in the DC National Guard. The Mayor is almost completely irrelevant to this discussion. The Mayor isn't even in charge of security at the Capitol Building. DC Capitol Police are in charge of that, and they were absolutely asking for help / backup by 2:30pm. Literally Nansi Pelosi (ultimate authority of the DC Capitol Police) was on the phone asking for help at that time. > You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you? Just the boogieman who delayed help between the hours of 12:30 and 5pm on January 6th. And yes, I do believe we all should be interested in that timeframe.

ganoushoreilly 6y ago
Right so let me get this right. You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? You must have been asleep during 2020. The moment that happened everyone would have screame COUP COUP COUP! It's evident no matter what the outcome was, you would find a way to argue why it's Trumps fault. At this point we're not contributing anything else of value in this discussion and I have no desire to continue to counter you.
- dragontamer 6y ago
  Look man, if you just wanna defend your boy Trump in this discussion, that's fine. I've laid out the facts and I think I'm satisfied with the state of my argument here. If you think I've made any factual errors in my logic, feel free to make a new response. But for now, I don't think your discussion points have any facts to stand on.
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- nate_meurer 6y ago
  So to be clear, you're conceding that your whole argument about Trump being unable to deploy any troops in the district was incorrect. I don't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. > You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? Um, yes? The real (and obvious) issue is that Trump wanted his supporters to physically interfere. He invited them to a "wild" protest on the 6th, and on that day told them to go "show strength" at the capitol, and said he'd go with them. This is incitement in clear language. Then, instead of going with his supporters, he hustled back to the white house to watch on TV as his supporters broke into the capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence", and refused to lift a finger to deploy resources to stop it.
  - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
    K. You're right, Trump orange man bad. He's responsible for it all.
    - nate_meurer 6y ago
      You've already admitted that your argument regarding Trump's power to deploy troops was incorrect. Are you able to elaborate on what parts of my comment you disagree with?