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NO in fact the President ultimately controls the D.C. National Guard, to writ the presidents office Delegates the task for Request to the D.C. Mayor.. Whom did

NO in fact the President ultimately controls the D.C. National Guard, to writ the presidents office Delegates the task for Request to the D.C. Mayor.. Whom did have National guard out before doing basic stuff on the street managing flow of traffic. It was a miss management of the D.C. Guard, and a failure to activate any other Guard Units ahead of time (because everyone said they didn't want them). So maybe you're looking at the wrong org chart.

dragontamer 6y ago
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/why-dcs-mayor-should-have-authority-over-dc-national-guard https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/why-... > Of these, only the D.C. National Guard (DCNG) is never under local control. Instead, under § 49-409 of the D.C. Code—which was enacted by Congress and predates the creation of D.C.’s local government—the president is at all times the DCNG’s commander-in-chief. DC Mayor has no authority for the DC National Guard. None at all. DC is a territory, it doesn't have the same rights as other locations. Its completely subservient to the President / Congress. > It was a miss management of the D.C. Guard Absolutely. Trump should have sent in the DC Guard at 2:30pm.
- ganoushoreilly 6y ago
  The mayor said no, they followed her request. You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you?
  - dragontamer 6y ago
    The Mayor has no say in the DC National Guard. The Mayor is almost completely irrelevant to this discussion. The Mayor isn't even in charge of security at the Capitol Building. DC Capitol Police are in charge of that, and they were absolutely asking for help / backup by 2:30pm. Literally Nansi Pelosi (ultimate authority of the DC Capitol Police) was on the phone asking for help at that time. > You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you? Just the boogieman who delayed help between the hours of 12:30 and 5pm on January 6th. And yes, I do believe we all should be interested in that timeframe.
    - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
      Right so let me get this right. You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? You must have been asleep during 2020. The moment that happened everyone would have screame COUP COUP COUP! It's evident no matter what the outcome was, you would find a way to argue why it's Trumps fault. At this point we're not contributing anything else of value in this discussion and I have no desire to continue to counter you.
      - dragontamer 6y ago
        Look man, if you just wanna defend your boy Trump in this discussion, that's fine. I've laid out the facts and I think I'm satisfied with the state of my argument here. If you think I've made any factual errors in my logic, feel free to make a new response. But for now, I don't think your discussion points have any facts to stand on.
        dang 6y ago
        Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - dang 6y ago
        Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - nate_meurer 6y ago
        So to be clear, you're conceding that your whole argument about Trump being unable to deploy any troops in the district was incorrect. I don't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. > You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? Um, yes? The real (and obvious) issue is that Trump wanted his supporters to physically interfere. He invited them to a "wild" protest on the 6th, and on that day told them to go "show strength" at the capitol, and said he'd go with them. This is incitement in clear language. Then, instead of going with his supporters, he hustled back to the white house to watch on TV as his supporters broke into the capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence", and refused to lift a finger to deploy resources to stop it.

dragontamer 6y ago

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/why-dcs-mayor-should-have-authority-over-dc-national-guard https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/why-... > Of these, only the D.C. National Guard (DCNG) is never under local control. Instead, under § 49-409 of the D.C. Code—which was enacted by Congress and predates the creation of D.C.’s local government—the president is at all times the DCNG’s commander-in-chief. DC Mayor has no authority for the DC National Guard. None at all. DC is a territory, it doesn't have the same rights as other locations. Its completely subservient to the President / Congress. > It was a miss management of the D.C. Guard Absolutely. Trump should have sent in the DC Guard at 2:30pm.

ganoushoreilly 6y ago
The mayor said no, they followed her request. You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you?
- dragontamer 6y ago
  The Mayor has no say in the DC National Guard. The Mayor is almost completely irrelevant to this discussion. The Mayor isn't even in charge of security at the Capitol Building. DC Capitol Police are in charge of that, and they were absolutely asking for help / backup by 2:30pm. Literally Nansi Pelosi (ultimate authority of the DC Capitol Police) was on the phone asking for help at that time. > You're really out to find a boogie man in just one person aren't you? Just the boogieman who delayed help between the hours of 12:30 and 5pm on January 6th. And yes, I do believe we all should be interested in that timeframe.
  - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
    Right so let me get this right. You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? You must have been asleep during 2020. The moment that happened everyone would have screame COUP COUP COUP! It's evident no matter what the outcome was, you would find a way to argue why it's Trumps fault. At this point we're not contributing anything else of value in this discussion and I have no desire to continue to counter you.
    - dragontamer 6y ago
      Look man, if you just wanna defend your boy Trump in this discussion, that's fine. I've laid out the facts and I think I'm satisfied with the state of my argument here. If you think I've made any factual errors in my logic, feel free to make a new response. But for now, I don't think your discussion points have any facts to stand on.
      - dang 6y ago
        Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - dang 6y ago
      Please don't take HN threads further into political flamewar, please avoid getting sucked in to tedious tit-for-tat spats, and please avoid personal swipes. None of that is what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - nate_meurer 6y ago
      So to be clear, you're conceding that your whole argument about Trump being unable to deploy any troops in the district was incorrect. I don't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. > You're made because Trump didn't go against the wishes of the mayor and just deploy more troops? Um, yes? The real (and obvious) issue is that Trump wanted his supporters to physically interfere. He invited them to a "wild" protest on the 6th, and on that day told them to go "show strength" at the capitol, and said he'd go with them. This is incitement in clear language. Then, instead of going with his supporters, he hustled back to the white house to watch on TV as his supporters broke into the capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence", and refused to lift a finger to deploy resources to stop it.