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Have you tried using OWASP ZAP? We're focusing on automation and feedback gratefully received. I'm also on the OpenSSF Security Tools Working Group and making s

Have you tried using OWASP ZAP? We're focusing on automation and feedback gratefully received. I'm also on the OpenSSF Security Tools Working Group and making security tools easier to use is definitely one of our priorities

glutamate 6y ago
First of all great product, I found a lot of XSS when using the GUI. Also I managed to get this scripted with zap-cli with an unauthenticated scan, not too much work. I don't like to complain about specific open source project so please take this as feedback. I gave up on trying to do an authenticated scan. Docs/ Forum answers always say "First get it to work in the GUI, then try running on command line." Well that's not helping me very much, because "getting it to work in the GUI" is not reproducible and shareable in the same way as a code/script showing clear steps. Secondly, getting authenticated scans to work when your login form is protected by a CSRF token is very much not trivial (don't think I got this to work in any tools). But if your forms are not protected, you have a vulnerability. My feeling is that the right kind of tool is really a library, so that one can script the login process which may be quite complex with 2FA.
- alert0 6y ago
  Regarding 2fa - For TOTP there is a Linux command line tool called oathtool. For SMS, set up Twilio. For U2F you can emulate a device with an ECDSA library. For CSRF you'll want browser automation, like Chrome Headless. Alternatively, you can load a page and extract a token from the DOM in a normal scraper. >To be honest it feels like vested interests are keeping it that way: professionals want to keep the tools manual so they can charge by the hour; As a security professional, get out of here with that non-sense. You've run into a challenging problem and still think there is some conspiracy. What we do is highly technical and often customer specific (e.g. automate 2fa due to some weird requirement rather than the customer disabling it for the test account). There is no market in automating a lot of this work, packaging it in a nodejs library for you to use, and writing docs.
  - glutamate 6y ago
    My "challenging problem" is that I use CSRF tokens, which is a minimal requirement of any non-toy project.
    - tlavoie 6y ago
      I haven't tried it in Zap, but there is definitely a Burp add-on that takes care of this for you. Probably several. Zap is pretty scriptable as well, so there are likely solutions for it also. What have you tried?

glutamate 6y ago

First of all great product, I found a lot of XSS when using the GUI. Also I managed to get this scripted with zap-cli with an unauthenticated scan, not too much work. I don't like to complain about specific open source project so please take this as feedback. I gave up on trying to do an authenticated scan. Docs/ Forum answers always say "First get it to work in the GUI, then try running on command line." Well that's not helping me very much, because "getting it to work in the GUI" is not reproducible and shareable in the same way as a code/script showing clear steps. Secondly, getting authenticated scans to work when your login form is protected by a CSRF token is very much not trivial (don't think I got this to work in any tools). But if your forms are not protected, you have a vulnerability. My feeling is that the right kind of tool is really a library, so that one can script the login process which may be quite complex with 2FA.

alert0 6y ago
Regarding 2fa - For TOTP there is a Linux command line tool called oathtool. For SMS, set up Twilio. For U2F you can emulate a device with an ECDSA library. For CSRF you'll want browser automation, like Chrome Headless. Alternatively, you can load a page and extract a token from the DOM in a normal scraper. >To be honest it feels like vested interests are keeping it that way: professionals want to keep the tools manual so they can charge by the hour; As a security professional, get out of here with that non-sense. You've run into a challenging problem and still think there is some conspiracy. What we do is highly technical and often customer specific (e.g. automate 2fa due to some weird requirement rather than the customer disabling it for the test account). There is no market in automating a lot of this work, packaging it in a nodejs library for you to use, and writing docs.
- glutamate 6y ago
  My "challenging problem" is that I use CSRF tokens, which is a minimal requirement of any non-toy project.
  - tlavoie 6y ago
    I haven't tried it in Zap, but there is definitely a Burp add-on that takes care of this for you. Probably several. Zap is pretty scriptable as well, so there are likely solutions for it also. What have you tried?