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How do UPS USPS and FedEx drivers tackle this issue ? Restroom access is a problem and it's important to come up with some proposals especially if we want more

How do UPS USPS and FedEx drivers tackle this issue ? Restroom access is a problem and it's important to come up with some proposals especially if we want more women to be able to work these jobs

evan_ 6y ago
My observation is that they use restrooms in office buildings on their route. Idk what they do on residential routes.
- djur 6y ago
  And one of the emails here notes that the problem has worsened with the pandemic, since office buildings are often closed. That checks out, at least.
- james-skemp 6y ago
  Gas stations would be my guess, based upon what I've seen. Our UPS driver at least tends to stop over by one right down the road from us. We have a regular driver, which likely helps create a bond with the staff, so you can skip the need to buy something every time.
azinman2 6y ago
Probably the same. Why would it be any different?
bbarnett 6y ago
Women can pee in a bottle too: https://www.amazon.com/Standing-Resistant-Urination-Portable-Reusable/dp/B07YYGVTZK https://www.amazon.com/Standing-Resistant-Urination-Portable... Equality often means, delicate sensitivities of either sex, are not considered.
- wutbrodo 6y ago
  I wonder why this is so downvoted? If you think peeing in a bottle is degrading, it doesn't seem that using a product like this would be any more degrading than the male method. I have women friends who use devices like these when we hike and there's nothing weird or embarrassing about it for any of us. Though it's important to note that women's bathroom needs are different from men in more ways than just the mechanics of urination. For one, menstruation is a recurring situation that has specific bathroom needs that a bottle doesn't really address.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    When you hike? I'd have thought doing it in nature would be fine (considering all the animals doing the same). I always do so when I hike anyway (just making sure there's nobody around :P ). My female friends also do so. Not sure exactly how as I am polite enough to turn around O:-) Indeed menstruation is a different issue altogether.
    - bbarnett 6y ago
      The device in question allows women to pee like men, while standing with pants on. This is the feature referenced for hiking, I think. It can also be used to pee in bottles.
    - LorenPechtel 6y ago
      Peeing in nature is fine. The reason for things like this for a woman to pee normally means exposing a lot more skin to eyes and the weather. Also, the usual scenario for being seen is someone not of your group coming up behind you--and with a pee funnel your bum isn't exposed at all. (Poo is another matter--you're expected to bury it 6-8" down, at least 200' from the trail, at least 200' from water. If you can't meet all three of these requirements you're expected to use a poo disposal bag (commonly called a WAG bag) and pack it out.) Locally, if you can accomplish the digging you're very likely in a watercourse.
      - GekkePrutser 6y ago
        Ah that makes sense. Where I hike in northern Spain there is a lot of foliage cover so this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
        LorenPechtel 6y ago
        I live in a pretty dry area. I can think of only one area with pretty dense foliage within a couple hours of home and that's in a seasonal stream. In the winter I've often been in areas with half a mile line of sight to any place you could actually get to and plenty of canyons where anyone coming around the bend is going to see you, period. Summer provides a bit more cover at lower elevations, but as you go higher there are trees but you can see under them and in many cases getting off the trail is difficult. If you hike long enough trails to need to relieve yourself you know there's a small chance you'll be seen, and likewise, you know there's a small chance you'll run into someone relieving themselves--if you can't stand either scenario, don't go.
plandis 6y ago
They pee in bottles too, why would you think it’s any different for them?

How do UPS USPS and FedEx drivers tackle this issue ? Restroom access is a problem and it's important to come up with some proposals especially if we want more women to be able to work these jobs

evan_ 6y ago

My observation is that they use restrooms in office buildings on their route. Idk what they do on residential routes.

djur 6y ago
And one of the emails here notes that the problem has worsened with the pandemic, since office buildings are often closed. That checks out, at least.
james-skemp 6y ago
Gas stations would be my guess, based upon what I've seen. Our UPS driver at least tends to stop over by one right down the road from us. We have a regular driver, which likely helps create a bond with the staff, so you can skip the need to buy something every time.

azinman2 6y ago

Probably the same. Why would it be any different?

bbarnett 6y ago

Women can pee in a bottle too: https://www.amazon.com/Standing-Resistant-Urination-Portable-Reusable/dp/B07YYGVTZK https://www.amazon.com/Standing-Resistant-Urination-Portable... Equality often means, delicate sensitivities of either sex, are not considered.

wutbrodo 6y ago
I wonder why this is so downvoted? If you think peeing in a bottle is degrading, it doesn't seem that using a product like this would be any more degrading than the male method. I have women friends who use devices like these when we hike and there's nothing weird or embarrassing about it for any of us. Though it's important to note that women's bathroom needs are different from men in more ways than just the mechanics of urination. For one, menstruation is a recurring situation that has specific bathroom needs that a bottle doesn't really address.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  When you hike? I'd have thought doing it in nature would be fine (considering all the animals doing the same). I always do so when I hike anyway (just making sure there's nobody around :P ). My female friends also do so. Not sure exactly how as I am polite enough to turn around O:-) Indeed menstruation is a different issue altogether.
  - bbarnett 6y ago
    The device in question allows women to pee like men, while standing with pants on. This is the feature referenced for hiking, I think. It can also be used to pee in bottles.
  - LorenPechtel 6y ago
    Peeing in nature is fine. The reason for things like this for a woman to pee normally means exposing a lot more skin to eyes and the weather. Also, the usual scenario for being seen is someone not of your group coming up behind you--and with a pee funnel your bum isn't exposed at all. (Poo is another matter--you're expected to bury it 6-8" down, at least 200' from the trail, at least 200' from water. If you can't meet all three of these requirements you're expected to use a poo disposal bag (commonly called a WAG bag) and pack it out.) Locally, if you can accomplish the digging you're very likely in a watercourse.
    - GekkePrutser 6y ago
      Ah that makes sense. Where I hike in northern Spain there is a lot of foliage cover so this wouldn't be as much of an issue.
      - LorenPechtel 6y ago
        I live in a pretty dry area. I can think of only one area with pretty dense foliage within a couple hours of home and that's in a seasonal stream. In the winter I've often been in areas with half a mile line of sight to any place you could actually get to and plenty of canyons where anyone coming around the bend is going to see you, period. Summer provides a bit more cover at lower elevations, but as you go higher there are trees but you can see under them and in many cases getting off the trail is difficult. If you hike long enough trails to need to relieve yourself you know there's a small chance you'll be seen, and likewise, you know there's a small chance you'll run into someone relieving themselves--if you can't stand either scenario, don't go.

plandis 6y ago

They pee in bottles too, why would you think it’s any different for them?