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people just don't understand what free speech really means. If you make terroristic threats, you're going to get in trouble. It's analogous to incognito mode.

by unloco 6y ago

people just don't understand what free speech really means. If you make terroristic threats, you're going to get in trouble. It's analogous to incognito mode. People completely misunderstand its purpose. They think it means they are sneaking around the internet protected with no consequences for their actions. In reality, "the internet" logs everything you're doing, only your personal browser doesnt. lol

krapp 6y ago
They probably didn't care because they assumed they would all be pardoned after Trump took over.
- jliptzin 6y ago
  In that scenario there wouldn’t even be a need for him to issue pardons
  - dragontamer 6y ago
    Trump was still President for a few weeks after January 6th. A lot of the capital invaders thought that Trump would pardon them, win or lose. You can see it from their court cases.
    - jliptzin 6y ago
      By “take over” the grandparent post means Trump would have become our dictator for life, no pardon would be issued because they would never be charged with a crime.
- CharlesW 6y ago
  For the naysayers, a "trump pardon capitol rioters" search will illustrate that this is exactly what many (most?) capitol rioters assumed.
- luxuryballs 6y ago
  I’m not convinced they even thought that far ahead, most people were just following the crowd. What is suspicious is the people who lead the way, some even carrying zip tie handcuffs. If they thought ahead enough to bring those, what were they even thinking? It’s suspicious because it makes no sense at all, yet is a perfect prop for the cameras. Then the letter of specific orders from the DC mayor to explicitly not request any security assistance, and the Capitol police that let people right in, all despite that we now know they knew months in advance of what was possible. Then, after the “smoke cleared” the Senate resumes, and with perfectly written speeches referencing the invasion, and with the proceedings and Congressional debate on election integrity being conveniently shifted to 1-2 in the morning, when few were watching. If anybody in the Senate was truly intending on contesting any result, the Capitol invasion wouldn’t have changed their mind, if anything it should have strengthened their resolve to do audits once they saw how much distrust there actually was. Instead they did the opposite and it was a bi-partisan effort. Meanwhile Twitter deleted the President’s calls for peace and condemnation of law breakers, suspended his account, and started mass suspending other accounts, while the media spun the tale that Trump had incited the crowd to violence, even using photos of people climbing walls and balconies to claim they were infiltrating when really it was just the easiest way to get up to where their friends were hanging out because the crowd was too dense to find a way around and use stairs. So much is wrong with how things were portrayed that it’s at best a major deception of opportunity, and at worst, which after seeing the blatant lies during the impeachment trial, was just a big media operation to smear Trump on the way out and further spin the narrative to keep him or other outsiders from attempting to get involved in DC politics ever again. Later in the Senate that evening Mitt Romney said something I’ll never forget: “an audit won’t satisfy the people, only telling them the truth will” despite the fact that even he didn’t know the truth because both parties agreed that they did not want to set the precedent to actually look under the hood, even though audits in a mere 4 counties would have settled the matter. From then until now the great purge has continued, with any questioning of election integrity or election officials being called dangerous for democracy, when in reality I can’t think of something more dangerous for democracy than not being able to question and probe at election integrity. They continue to this day to reinforce the narrative that public trust in the election system is election integrity rather than the actual integrity of the election system itself! And because of the intense hatred for Trump drummed up by the media for the past half decade, people are energetically supporting this idea. People who believe they care about democracy more than anything, duped into thinking that caring about it means dogmatically avoiding any kind of scrutiny or accountability. It’s one of the most terrifying social phenomenon I’ve witnessed in my entire life.

by unloco 6y ago

krapp 6y ago

They probably didn't care because they assumed they would all be pardoned after Trump took over.

jliptzin 6y ago
In that scenario there wouldn’t even be a need for him to issue pardons
- dragontamer 6y ago
  Trump was still President for a few weeks after January 6th. A lot of the capital invaders thought that Trump would pardon them, win or lose. You can see it from their court cases.
  - jliptzin 6y ago
    By “take over” the grandparent post means Trump would have become our dictator for life, no pardon would be issued because they would never be charged with a crime.
CharlesW 6y ago
For the naysayers, a "trump pardon capitol rioters" search will illustrate that this is exactly what many (most?) capitol rioters assumed.
luxuryballs 6y ago
I’m not convinced they even thought that far ahead, most people were just following the crowd. What is suspicious is the people who lead the way, some even carrying zip tie handcuffs. If they thought ahead enough to bring those, what were they even thinking? It’s suspicious because it makes no sense at all, yet is a perfect prop for the cameras. Then the letter of specific orders from the DC mayor to explicitly not request any security assistance, and the Capitol police that let people right in, all despite that we now know they knew months in advance of what was possible. Then, after the “smoke cleared” the Senate resumes, and with perfectly written speeches referencing the invasion, and with the proceedings and Congressional debate on election integrity being conveniently shifted to 1-2 in the morning, when few were watching. If anybody in the Senate was truly intending on contesting any result, the Capitol invasion wouldn’t have changed their mind, if anything it should have strengthened their resolve to do audits once they saw how much distrust there actually was. Instead they did the opposite and it was a bi-partisan effort. Meanwhile Twitter deleted the President’s calls for peace and condemnation of law breakers, suspended his account, and started mass suspending other accounts, while the media spun the tale that Trump had incited the crowd to violence, even using photos of people climbing walls and balconies to claim they were infiltrating when really it was just the easiest way to get up to where their friends were hanging out because the crowd was too dense to find a way around and use stairs. So much is wrong with how things were portrayed that it’s at best a major deception of opportunity, and at worst, which after seeing the blatant lies during the impeachment trial, was just a big media operation to smear Trump on the way out and further spin the narrative to keep him or other outsiders from attempting to get involved in DC politics ever again. Later in the Senate that evening Mitt Romney said something I’ll never forget: “an audit won’t satisfy the people, only telling them the truth will” despite the fact that even he didn’t know the truth because both parties agreed that they did not want to set the precedent to actually look under the hood, even though audits in a mere 4 counties would have settled the matter. From then until now the great purge has continued, with any questioning of election integrity or election officials being called dangerous for democracy, when in reality I can’t think of something more dangerous for democracy than not being able to question and probe at election integrity. They continue to this day to reinforce the narrative that public trust in the election system is election integrity rather than the actual integrity of the election system itself! And because of the intense hatred for Trump drummed up by the media for the past half decade, people are energetically supporting this idea. People who believe they care about democracy more than anything, duped into thinking that caring about it means dogmatically avoiding any kind of scrutiny or accountability. It’s one of the most terrifying social phenomenon I’ve witnessed in my entire life.