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> Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place wh

> Nobody raised anybody out of poverty. The only ones they have to thank for raising them out of poverty are themselves. It was that party in the first place which plunged China into the abyss. Do you honestly think that in 1970s rural china without investments into infrastructure you'd still be able to pull yourself out of poverty? These things require huge organized effort. Not sure where you got the idea that the average chinese should be grateful to the party. I've said nothing about that, just pointing out the advantages of the average Chinese person.

david38 6y ago
You are the correct. The poster has no idea what they’re saying. Never in the history of the world have a few hundred million people just up and decided to raise themselves out of poverty because they felt like it, all at the same time. This is 100% a result of * government policies * technology * international cooperation Hell, there is even a name for the project! The Great Leap Forward.
- jenshk 6y ago
  The Great Leap Forward, has nothing to do with the current success in China. That was Mao's project that resulted in tens of millions of deaths. The reason for China's success is all about the economic reforms introduced by Deng Xiaoping in the 1980's. Deng's policies and influence is still relevate in todays China, except Xi Jinping is more hard core than Deng would have liked. Deng in his later years was more of a pragmatic than idealistic, as Deng said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat.". Yes, what's happing in Xinjiang is terrible. But it does not take away from the success of Deng's policies in transforming China. Make no mistake - most Chinese backs the party, even thou they know it has also done some terrible things. They do that because of the financial success of the policies. It's also true, that there is currently no alternative to the party in China. Secondly there are many opinions inside the party both for and against Xi Jinping. It's not black and white.

david38 6y ago

You are the correct. The poster has no idea what they’re saying. Never in the history of the world have a few hundred million people just up and decided to raise themselves out of poverty because they felt like it, all at the same time. This is 100% a result of * government policies * technology * international cooperation Hell, there is even a name for the project! The Great Leap Forward.

jenshk 6y ago
The Great Leap Forward, has nothing to do with the current success in China. That was Mao's project that resulted in tens of millions of deaths. The reason for China's success is all about the economic reforms introduced by Deng Xiaoping in the 1980's. Deng's policies and influence is still relevate in todays China, except Xi Jinping is more hard core than Deng would have liked. Deng in his later years was more of a pragmatic than idealistic, as Deng said: "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat.". Yes, what's happing in Xinjiang is terrible. But it does not take away from the success of Deng's policies in transforming China. Make no mistake - most Chinese backs the party, even thou they know it has also done some terrible things. They do that because of the financial success of the policies. It's also true, that there is currently no alternative to the party in China. Secondly there are many opinions inside the party both for and against Xi Jinping. It's not black and white.