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I occasionally use this software through Debian's package for it, which of course doesn't contain the adware. But the strategy employed here does leave me with

by gspr 6y ago

I occasionally use this software through Debian's package for it, which of course doesn't contain the adware. But the strategy employed here does leave me with a bit of a sour taste and a desire to stop using the software altogether.

swiley 6y ago
Most graphical DE shells on Linux will just mount sftp (scp/ssh) graphically, no need for stuff like this. People still say Linux DEs aren't user friendly but IMO they're much more so than other OSes largely because other OSes have a moat to protect.
- sgc 6y ago
  I use FileZilla on Linux because the file manager integrated ftp clients were not very good, and did not save connections etc. Just less of a PITA. I see I should try gftp or another alternative though.
  - swiley 6y ago
    I'd imagine it's wrapping ssh which will reuse connections if you tell it to in your ssh config. I use that heavily on my mobile computers.
deskamess 6y ago
I wonder if the Chocolatey version has the adware.
arbitrage 6y ago
don't hate the player, hate the game. this is the result of parasitic capitalism. i have no doubts that a dev who contributed so strongly to the opensource ecosystem for such a long time specifically wants to be in this situation. you wouldn't, i don't, they probably don't. how else are we supposed to support our families and the community? there's no other source of revenue or support for a freelance programmer in caretaker mode for a mature and stable codebase. donations don't cut it, obviously.
- corin_ 6y ago
  Minor correction, I think you meant "I have doubts..." not "I have no doubts" (or you meant to double negative it later with "I have no doubt that... would not want...")
- C19is20 6y ago
  So why hide the 'good' version?
- rectang 6y ago
  Open Source is not a business model, it is a development methodology — and that development methodology invites modifications by users under a license which upholds a set of conditions friendly to such modifications (spelled out in OSI's Open Source Definition). Nobody has to write software that abuses its users with freakin' adware, proprietary or open source — and any creator who does so should be shunned. All the more so if they simultaneously abuse us and invite open source collaboration. This isn't starving people being driven to steal food.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Are you seriously claiming that adware is the only way for a programmer to make money?
  - throwaway53453 6y ago
    How would you do it? If nobody sells your software, and nobody is donating.
    - anoncake 6y ago
      Get a different job? It may not have anything to do with FileZilla but no software developer with a successful open source project on their resume is forced to use adware. I'd understand if they were unable to work for whatever reason, but FileZilla development looks too active for that.
      - 6y ago

by gspr 6y ago

swiley 6y ago

Most graphical DE shells on Linux will just mount sftp (scp/ssh) graphically, no need for stuff like this. People still say Linux DEs aren't user friendly but IMO they're much more so than other OSes largely because other OSes have a moat to protect.

sgc 6y ago
I use FileZilla on Linux because the file manager integrated ftp clients were not very good, and did not save connections etc. Just less of a PITA. I see I should try gftp or another alternative though.
- swiley 6y ago
  I'd imagine it's wrapping ssh which will reuse connections if you tell it to in your ssh config. I use that heavily on my mobile computers.

deskamess 6y ago

I wonder if the Chocolatey version has the adware.

arbitrage 6y ago

don't hate the player, hate the game. this is the result of parasitic capitalism. i have no doubts that a dev who contributed so strongly to the opensource ecosystem for such a long time specifically wants to be in this situation. you wouldn't, i don't, they probably don't. how else are we supposed to support our families and the community? there's no other source of revenue or support for a freelance programmer in caretaker mode for a mature and stable codebase. donations don't cut it, obviously.

corin_ 6y ago
Minor correction, I think you meant "I have doubts..." not "I have no doubts" (or you meant to double negative it later with "I have no doubt that... would not want...")
C19is20 6y ago
So why hide the 'good' version?
rectang 6y ago
Open Source is not a business model, it is a development methodology — and that development methodology invites modifications by users under a license which upholds a set of conditions friendly to such modifications (spelled out in OSI's Open Source Definition). Nobody has to write software that abuses its users with freakin' adware, proprietary or open source — and any creator who does so should be shunned. All the more so if they simultaneously abuse us and invite open source collaboration. This isn't starving people being driven to steal food.
anoncake 6y ago
Are you seriously claiming that adware is the only way for a programmer to make money?
- throwaway53453 6y ago
  How would you do it? If nobody sells your software, and nobody is donating.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    Get a different job? It may not have anything to do with FileZilla but no software developer with a successful open source project on their resume is forced to use adware. I'd understand if they were unable to work for whatever reason, but FileZilla development looks too active for that.
    - 6y ago